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Immigration is the issue (The main reason for Perry's decline)
WorldnetDaily ^ | 09/27/2011 | Vox Day

Posted on 09/27/2011 7:25:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: org.whodat

I’m with you. Count me as another heartless person who would dump the entire family back in their country of origin, anchor babies and all. My point was that if we are going to give in-state tuition to the children of parents who broke the law (illegals) what’s the difference between those children and the children of other law-breakers?


41 posted on 09/27/2011 9:42:57 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: momtothree
Another reason why in-state tuition is scary.

RAZA STUDIES: Anti-Americanism Disguised as Ethnic Studies
Townhall.com ^ | August 27, 2011 | Rachel Alexander
FR Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011

The Tucson Unified School District (TUSD) is in a contentious fight with the state of Arizona over its controversial Mexican-American Studies program---known as “raza studies,”---- agit-prop of the far left La Raza, coming to a school near you. A state law went into effect in Arizona on January 1, 2011, banning the teaching of ethnic studies in K-12 schools. It was prompted by an investigation into TUSD’s ethnic studies curriculum by Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne when he was State Superintendent of Schools.

The program is known as “raza studies,” which means race studies, championed by organizations like the far left organization National Council of La Raza. The course does not simply teach Latino youth about their heritage, it goes well beyond that. The textbooks teach Latino youth that they are mistreated by America, training them to become radical anti-American activists.

Textbooks include “The Pedagogy of the Oppressed” and “Occupied America.” Another text "gloats over the difficulties our country is having at enforcing its immigration laws." Benjamin Franklin is vilified as a racist. White people are referred to as “gringos” and “oppressors” of Latino people. “Privilege” is described as related to a person’s ethnicity.

At a TUSD school board meeting on May 10, one upset mother read excerpts from the textbook An Epic Poem: " My land is lost and stolen, My culture has been raped......we have to destroy capitalism…overthrow a government that has committed abuses….to the bloodsuckers, the parasites, the vampires who are the capitalists of the world: The schools are tools of the power structure that blind and sentence our youth to a life of confusion, and hypocrisy, one that preaches assimilation and practices institutional racism."--SNIP--

"Captain Gardasil" addresses La Raza.

"Did he promise to put 'raza studies' in every school."

42 posted on 09/27/2011 10:12:03 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We canÂ’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The various myths about Ellis Island notwithstanding, the American people have always been moderately anti-immigration.

I read a lot about America ca. 1880s-1900. There's always been a consistent bias against the Newbies because they look/sound different and work cheaper than anybody else. (Some things never change). The hook is that by the second or third generation these people had all assimilated and become productive citizens.

The deal then was that various ethnic organizations took them under their wing, got them jobs and eased the transition. Nowadays, these new organization show the illegals the address of the nearest welfare office and instruct them on how to game the social services system.

As a former volunteer reading tutor of Middle School students, I consistently ran into stories by teachers of parents forbidding their kids to read/speak English at home as "Spanish is your heritage". Far too many of these illegals don't want to become Americans, just live like them - and then cop an attitude when citizens complain.

43 posted on 09/27/2011 10:44:04 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: SeekAndFind
I do not need propaganda to know what she thinks... close the border first and foremost... I heard her say it herself... Perry refuses to consider closing the border and securing it against illegal entry... and Palin will never support amnesty... perry can't be trusted by me to not pass amnesty... Palin can be trusted. No sale... not now and not ever.

LLS

44 posted on 09/27/2011 11:24:37 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Is the person that you support a Crony Capitalist... A.K.A. CRAPITALIST?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Two million LEGAL immigrants come into the USA every year. That is another New York City every four years! We have to open discussions about legal immigration, not just illegal immigration. We can start by just asking the question, how many immigrants should we let into the country every year? What should be the limits? I would like to see one of the Presidential candidates ask this question. When one of the liberals or rinos try to lay a guilt trip on a conservative, he should reply with this response, “We need to have a national discussion about legal immigration. We need to ask the people what they think should be the right number of immigrants every year.” This would side step the liberal accusations and would put the question to the American people.

Where are we going to put all of these people? What will our grandchildren’s futures be like? These are some questions that should be asked of the American people.


45 posted on 09/27/2011 6:05:01 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: SeekAndFind

After 6 years of national debate on this issue, it is not heartening to see Sarah Palin’s tepid response to illegal immigration. I don’t think she truly gets the seriousness of this problem. When 12 to 20 million illegals are in our country and there is no sign of stopping, our national unity and cohesiveness is at stake.


46 posted on 09/27/2011 6:13:57 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Dick Bachert
“Artfully dodging questions”...There should be an “artful dodger” award given out every year to the most devious Republican politician. No need to include Democrats we know they all lie.
47 posted on 09/27/2011 6:39:17 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: SeekAndFind
I am no fan of Herman Cain and his Federal Reserve connections, but if he is astute enough to ride the anti-immigration wave that Rick Perry inadvertently created at last week’s debate, he may have the potential to become a credible candidate for the nomination.”

Perry created that wave years ago when he was pushing for guest worker programs. I still don't understand why Perry won't change his stance now - Conservatives didn't like guest worker programs when Bush, McCain, and Perry were pushing them in 2006 and 2007 and they don't like them in 2011.
48 posted on 09/28/2011 2:43:24 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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