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Texas toast? Rick Perry worries GOP
Politico ^ | September 23, 2011 | Jonathan Martin and James Hohmann

Posted on 09/23/2011 11:36:05 AM PDT by iowamark

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To: iowamark

“Perry’s plain spoken,”

Yes he is and he spoke so plainly about his support for illegal aliens getting instate tuition that he talked me right out of supporting him.

I think if Gingrich can roll out a cogent new Contract For America next week in Iowa a Gingrich/Cain ticket might be a winner.


41 posted on 09/23/2011 12:15:22 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Grunthor
Perry will not be the nominee. In order; Cain, Gingrich, Santorum. Nothing follows.

Cain: Zero governing experience. Has never won a single election in his entire life.

Gingrich: The highest polling Negatives of any candidate.

Santorum: Just got noticed last night.

As it stands now, unless Perry gets his act together and engages in serious debate preparation, Romney is currently in the driver's seat.

42 posted on 09/23/2011 12:17:50 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: iowamark

The fork is in Perry....he’s done. I’m not a history major but I seem to recall that Abraham Lincoln was unknown at the time and he was the dark horse candidate. I hope and pray that Mr. Cain will follow Lincoln’s footsteps because I really think he is head and shoulders above everyone else so far and I don’t understand why he’s not doing better in the polls. He may be light in the foreign affairs issues but what did Obammy know about ANYTHING? If Cain would announce now who he would trust as advisors and appoint to his cabinet, he would leap out ahead.


43 posted on 09/23/2011 12:19:03 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: iowamark

Perry is another Obama is what I think. He has illegals running all around Houston, drunk driving,drug dealing, it looks like a 3rd world country in certain areas of town and God forbid the illegals follow the same laws as everyone else.HPD handels illegals like V.I.P.S


44 posted on 09/23/2011 12:21:24 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: iowamark

Both Perry and Romney should get out of the race now. Both proved conclusively last night that they do not have what it takes to lead the USA.

Both are Democrat Lite Establishment bots.


45 posted on 09/23/2011 12:22:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Gator113

Thats what I thought last night too...I have never liked him for his border position and the entire way he has handled the illegals in Texas..


46 posted on 09/23/2011 12:23:59 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: iowamark

Typical nonsense from the “inside the beltway” liberal crowd.

They look at what is happening to Perry and see a failure of marketing. His handlers inserted Perry into the race too late, they say.

It never occurs to the liberal pundits that conservatives might actually be concerned about the substance coming out of Perry’s mouth.

When he calls people opposed to illegal immigration “heartless” and “divisive” and “anti-immigrant” we are looking at someone who is revealing in himself the soul of a liberal.

Someone who “errs on the side of life” by abusing his power as chief executive to unilaterally dictate injections for 12-year-old girls.

That he is someone who emotes rather than thinks. That is the mark of a liberal.

I am now wondering whether someone ghost-wrote his book for him. Was there some real conservative who helped him fill his book with red meat ideas for the right, as a marketing ploy to make him appeal to conservatives?


47 posted on 09/23/2011 12:28:46 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (Obama has created more jobs in soup kitchens than anyone since Jimmy Carter)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I think if Gingrich can roll out a cogent new Contract For America next week in Iowa a Gingrich/Cain ticket might be a winner.

Exactly my sentiments.


48 posted on 09/23/2011 12:30:42 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: MNJohnnie

“Both Perry and Romney should get out of the race now”

I agree. We need to start over with someone other than these two clowns.

Remember, Ronald Reagan had not yet even declared for the presidency by this time the year before his election.


49 posted on 09/23/2011 12:31:31 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (Obama has created more jobs in soup kitchens than anyone since Jimmy Carter)
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To: Polybius
As it stands now, unless Perry gets his act together and engages in serious debate preparation, Romney is currently in the driver's seat.

Yeah, but I think Romney has a ceiling kind of like Ron Paul. You see Ron Paul pulling respectable percentages in polls but you know he can't get any higher.

Remembering that Juan McCain beat Romney before demonstrates Romney's limited appeal. Romney could get a temporary lift from Perry's fall but after a while people will remember why they chose even Juan McCain ahead of Romney. I'm not convinced Romney can break out from the RINO segment of the Republican primary voters.

50 posted on 09/23/2011 12:37:11 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (Obama has created more jobs in soup kitchens than anyone since Jimmy Carter)
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To: iowamark

candidates overcome lackluster debate performances all the time, it is the immigration issue that stands to hound him out of this race


51 posted on 09/23/2011 12:43:23 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sanjuanbob
Gingrich/Cain ticket might be a winner.

Not withstanding the chances of either, but I believe there is a Constitutional requirement that the President and Vice President not be from the same state. If Newt's home is still listed as Georgia, then one would have to officially claim a different state. I believe this was the case with Bush and Cheney and Cheney re-claimed his native state of Wyoming. Of course, for the nearly the last three years The Constitution has been pretty much null and void since the kenyan took over, so this might be overlooked also.

FUBO GTFO! 484 Days until Noon Jan 20, 2013

52 posted on 09/23/2011 12:43:23 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Polybius

I don’t like Romney. I don’t trust Romney. Romney however does not spend his time on national tv in a debate personally attacking me.

Perry has twice now.


53 posted on 09/23/2011 12:44:08 PM PDT by Grunthor (Rick Perry; George W. Bush' smart cousin.)
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To: tbpiper
Cain is an excellent motivator, but Newt and Rick are the best at articulating key concepts.

Got it exactly backwards. Stantorum and Gingrich are great sound bite politicians. They are great at selling other people's ideas. Neither of then has any key concepts or leadership principals nor serious programs.

The only real leader on that stage was Cain. He has a program, a plan for implementation and the communication skills to sell it to the American people.

54 posted on 09/23/2011 12:45:17 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: cblue55
And David continued to pray to the blue fairy... she who smiled softly forever. She who welcomed forever. Eventually, the floodlights died... but David could still see her, palely, by day. And he still addressed her, in hope. He prayed until all the sea anemones had shriveled and died... as the ocean froze... and the ice encased the amphilbicopter and the Blue Fairy... locking them together where he could see her... a blue ghost in ice. Always there. Always smiling. Always awaiting him. Eventually, he never moved at all... but his eyes always stayed open... staring ahead forever all though the darkness of each night... and the next day... and the next day... Thus, 2000 years passed by.
55 posted on 09/23/2011 12:45:45 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (The Pay to Play Cabal Cafeteria now serving oatmeal muffins)
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To: sanjuanbob
72% of republicans polled don’t want Palin to run.
IOW, 28% do.

24% of GOP primary voters would vote for Perry...76% don't want to vote for him...Get it

56 posted on 09/23/2011 12:49:24 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: iowamark
For those that knew the real Rick Perry, he was done before he began.

Want more Bush open borders, want more executives orders from hell, want more giving away our rights in the name of "security", want more bumbling teleprompter arrogance? Perry is your guy. I've had my fill of neo-con Texas governors...
57 posted on 09/23/2011 12:53:49 PM PDT by Khepri (Change -- Neocons for Obama? That's not change.)
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To: MNJohnnie
The only real leader on that stage was Cain.

I disagree.

58 posted on 09/23/2011 12:54:19 PM PDT by tbpiper (Sarah Palin is the antivenin for the Obama poison)
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To: Polybius

He could prepare all he wants but if his stance on illegals is to educate them then he can look elsewhere for votes.


59 posted on 09/23/2011 1:03:00 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: iowamark; All
It's not yet over for Perry but it's not looking good. His campaign is not preparing him well.

Romney officials were particularly tough in their critique of Perry’s vague answer on what he would do if he got a 3AM call alerting him that Pakistan had lost nuclear weapons to the Taliban.

The question was a setup to see if Perry would be "more Bush-than-Bush" and charge into the situation. He said area allies are critical, and they would be if nukes fell into Taliban hands. He criticized Obama failures to shore up regional alliances citing the F-16 purchases vetoed by this administration. Lacking allies, we lack intelligence. Lacking allies, we lack access for our assets and technology.

The idea that we can be everywhere, see everything and know everything should've been settled with Iraq's WMD intelligence failures, the length of time taken to find Osama and a myriad of other problems.

Since Romney's officials aren't volunteering his own answer, I seriously doubt Romney has an answer.

60 posted on 09/23/2011 1:12:05 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Ryan: Obama "a pyromaniac in a field of straw men" / Andre Carson's racism goes unchecked)
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