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It might be the result of a hidden measurement error, but if not...it's the new Michaelson-Morley experiment. It's real news for any physics buff, provided it's confirmed.

One question comes to mind: why didn't the neutrinos travel backwards in time? Or did they, adding to their speed?

1 posted on 09/22/2011 6:57:15 PM PDT by danielmryan
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Never underestimate that this could be global warmists claiming Co2 affects the speed of light (nutrinos). They will spin this to harm freedom.


54 posted on 09/22/2011 7:56:40 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Obama unemployment equals national prosperity.)
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Steven Wright had it correct many years ago. “If you’re traveling in a spacecraft at the speed of light and you turn your headlights on...does it make any difference?”


58 posted on 09/22/2011 8:30:43 PM PDT by lunarville (Common sense ain't so common anymore...)
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[One question comes to mind: why didn’t the neutrinos travel backwards in time?]

Because time is a derivative function of state-change and has no “backwards” to travel into.


59 posted on 09/22/2011 8:56:30 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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Of all the particles known and unknown, why should photons be the fastest?


63 posted on 09/22/2011 9:08:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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ping


66 posted on 09/22/2011 10:06:10 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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Color me skeptical. Lots of things travel faster than the speed of light, if you are not in a vacuum, and there’s no vacuum between Switzerland and Italy that I know of. So, how can they really make any significant conclusions from this experiment?


69 posted on 09/22/2011 10:09:47 PM PDT by Boogieman
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"It's real news for any physics buff, provided it's confirmed."

Are you kidding me?

If confirmed and proven, this would be like finding out the earth is round.

It Is Fundamental To everything We Think We Know!

70 posted on 09/22/2011 10:11:49 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Janet's eyes were shining... like a woman in love, or like a relativistic mathematician who has just found a new way to work a transformation. "So they've done it!" she said in a hushed voice.

"Done what?" I asked. She was certainly taking it in a big way; I hadn't realized she was that anxious to get home.

"Tommie, don't you see? They've done it, they've done it, they've applied irrelevance. Dr. Babcock was right."

"Huh?"

"Why, it's perfectly plain. What kind of a ship can get here in a month? An irrelevant ship, of course. One that is faster than light." She frowned. "But I don't see why it should take even a month. It shouldn't take any time at all. It wouldn't use time."

I said, "Take it easy, Janet. I'm stupid this morning—I didn't have much sleep last night. Why do you say that ship... uh, the Serendipity... is faster than light? That's impossible."

"Tommie, Tommie... look, dear, if it was an ordinary ship, in order to rendezvous with us here, it would have had to have left Earth over sixty-three years ago."

"Well, maybe it did."

"Tommie! It couldn't possibly — because that long ago non body knew that we would be here now. How could they?"

I figured back. Sixty-three Greenwich years ago... mama, that would have been sometime during our first peak. Janet seemed to be right; only an incredible optimist or a fortune teller would have sent a ship from Earth at that time to meet us here now. "I don't understand it."

"Don't you see, Tommie? I've explained it to you, I know I have. Irrelevance. Why, you telepaths were the reason the investigation started; you proved that 'simultaneity' was an admissible concept , . . and the inevitable logical consequence was that time and space do not exist."

I felt my head begin to ache. "They don't? Then what is that we seem to be having breakfast in?"

"Just a mathematical abstraction, dear. Nothing more." She smiled and looked motherly. "Poor 'Sentimental Tommie.' You worry too much."

-- Robert A. Heinlein, Time For the Stars, 1956
85 posted on 09/22/2011 11:17:38 PM PDT by Shalmaneser
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SIX MONTHS AGO - “Large Hadron Collider Could Be World’s First Time Machine, Researchers’ Theory Suggests ScienceDaily (Mar. 16, 2011)...

TODAY - “Neutrinos Travel Faster Than Light”, - news.sciencemag.org
(Sep. 22, 2011)...
Today my be the day the human race first traveling back in time.....tomorrow may never be the same.


86 posted on 09/22/2011 11:52:18 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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It will be a conference at CERN at 1600 to 1800 (European time) http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=155620 It will be live here http://webcast.cern.ch/

My bet is that they will find the measurement error.


91 posted on 09/23/2011 2:00:43 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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"We now want colleagues to check them independently."

With a whole new set of data, right?

It sounds like they just want everyone to take their word for it and just double check their numbers, not do the entire experiment over again.

97 posted on 09/23/2011 9:23:56 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Geithner: Taxes on 'Small Business' Must Rise So Government Doesn't 'Shrink')
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Here’s a fun development to watch.


105 posted on 09/25/2011 10:26:00 AM PDT by lonevoice (The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers, impeach we much)
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