Posted on 09/18/2011 1:29:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Gov. Perry also said in the Reagan Library debate that, “If President Obama thinks El Paso, Texas is safer today (which Obama said at a rally during a fund raising trip to the Mexican border town), either he has the worst Intel ever, or he is an abject liar.”
Border related crime is a big problem for Texas — it cost us money and it is a human tragedy of immense scale (crime, human trafficking, drug trafficking...)
Rick Perry also spoke out AGAINST Arizona’s dealing with the problem, which tells me that he really doesn’t want to deal with it, he was just play acting with Obama because it he knew it would go nowhere, but it would make him look as if he were trying to do something.
The governor speaks to the people of Texas and to groups in Texas. That is an official duty. Do you have more than a picture to add? A lot of people have spoken to La Raza.
Gov. Perry said the AZ law wouldn't be a good fit for Texas.
BTW, how is that AZ law working for AZ?
Not necessarily. The term is basically synonymous with corporatism which is the progressive notion that society is best served by a government-business partnership to avoid the "inefficiencies" of competition. Perfected, there aren't two companies for a government agent to discriminate between; all that inefficiency has been eradicated by the progressive application of scientific principles on behalf of a unified, grateful, and compliant population.
That's the progressive vision and "crony capitalism" goes far deeper and is far more visionary than mere favoritism. If this sounds a lot like Fascism, that should not surprise, because it was invented here, then exported to Italy. But it is as American as apple pie and is ingrained throughout the Democrat Party. The Republican Party has not escaped the infection either, though it shows signs of throwing it off of late.
There's your money quote right there.
Exactly right.
No, he didn’t.
You are getting your information from biased people.
Exactly, he said he supported AZ in their decision on their law, but when asked point blank if TX should have “the exact same law”, he said no, he did not think it fit the circumstances in TX because the two states are different. Therefore, should not have the exact same law.
First on immigration, I hear crickets from all of them. Like them, Perry says he will secure the border.
On HPV, saw Monica Crowley last night claiming it’s a huge problem for Perry, and that Perry joining the race is making Romney a stronger candidate. Clear Romneybot.
I will gladly vote for either one versus O.
What he said:
“I fully recognize and support a state’s right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas,” Perry said in a statement.
The law in question, signed by Arizona’s governor last week, would require immigrants to carry documents verifying their immigration status. It would also require police officers to question a person about his or her immigration status if there is “reasonable suspicion” that person may be illegally in the country.
But Perry, who bragged earlier this week about shooting a coyote and suggested last year that his state could secede from the United States, explained why he thinks the Arizona law is flawed.
“Some aspects of the law turn law enforcement officers into immigration officials by requiring them to determine immigration status during any lawful contact with a suspected alien, taking them away from their existing law enforcement duties, which are critical to keeping citizens safe,” Perry said.
Meanwhile, the Arizona legislature yesterday moved to modify the new law in order to address the concerns raised by Perry and others, the Arizona Republic reports.
State lawmakers proposed changes the phrase “lawful contact” to “lawful stop, detention or arrest” in order to clarify that officers would not need to question presumably innocent parties, such as crime victims or witnesses, about their immigration status.
So, what is so wrong about the police checking immigration status during a lawful stop? If they don’t want to bring them in themselves they can always hold them while waiting for Immigration officers. Every little bit helps. Its certainly better than offering in state tuition to illegals that have managed to remain in the school system for 3 years. That’s certainly no deterrent! I guess its better to DO NOTHING than than to make any attempt to deport or seal that border.
If he thinks its the feds job and he’s really concerned about the states obligation of protecting its citizens then why hasn’t he sued the federal government for not doing their job? Or why doesn’t he enforce illegal hiring practices, that would help a lot. There are things that he ‘could’ be doing if he really wanted to. Methinks he doesn’t really want to.
He won’t be getting my vote.
Gardasil is it’s own issue but the general discussion against mandating vaccines seems odd because we already mandate polio and other vaccines. If it’s the whole vaccines cause autism argument, the science doesn’t support it. At that point we are demanding kids’ rights to die of childhood diseases?
Of course, this is where his immigration position comes in, and where my enthusiasm for him suddenly drops like a rock.
Gov. Perry is the top executive of a border state that has a 1250 mile INTERNATIONAL border that he’s repeatedly asked help to secure (even tried to personally hand Obama a letter detailing the problem and asking for federal help as Obama exited Air Force One on a fundraiser to Austin, TX. A letter that he would not take and that Valerie Jarret accepted in a dismissive gesture on the tarmac).
The state of Texas spends $100M yearly from state funds, using among other things an elite Texas Ranger force to try to secure our long border with Mexico. Rick Perry wants and has asked for drones in the air and boots on the ground (but not a fence except in urban areas where it helps).
The Federal government with it’s social engineering, it’s public school “don’t ask for a child’s U.S. citizen status” dictate, and their continued inaction on this, have put Texas in the position of resorting to working the problem as it relates to the state. So the children of illegal immigrants who have attended a minimum 3 years of high school in Texas and graduated (who want go on the college) - who are working toward citizenship, they are allowed to pay in-state tuition. This makes them more likely to contribute to the state economy than take from it. This is a big help because Texas pays a lot of money on education and health care costs due to the current federal inaction of securing the border.
I think a President Perry would have the brains and fortitude and the credibility, to finally do something about this — no one else will. Gov. Perry has said that the border MUST BE SEALED before any talk of “where do we go next” will take place — he said he will not repeat the cycle that keeps occurring. _________________________________
As a Texan (not by birth, by choice), I can’t see any candidate that would do more to secure the border than Perry.
As far as the fence goes, I think Perry learned his lesson during the TTC fiasco. I couldn’t stand the fact that by eminent domain they’d seize private lands for a highway that in many cases divided a ranchers land so bad that to get to the other 1/2 of his land required driving 20 or 30 miles up & back to the next exit.
Building that fence, cutting many ranchers off from the Rio Grande and essentially ceding that land to Mexico is obscene.
I say keep your big government in Austin & DC & leave these people alone.
Also, I liked the way Perry finally backed down on the vaccine instead of who cares about the will of the people like Obama. I admit Perry may have thought he was doing good due to the good will in his heart, but again, leave the people alone.
As far as Mitt Romney’s, “you’ve been delt 4 aces.” He is abolutely right, our Texas economy is growing like crazy. We’ve absorbed (reluctantly) millions of illegals & US newcomers & still continue to grow.
Link? I've heard him say he doesn't believe in building a fence, so how does he plan to SEAL THE BORDER without a fence?
The vaccine is not the issue. The issue is that Perry didn’t even bother to go through the legislature.
Instead, he issues an Executive Order, as though he was king, to mandate this pig in a poke on young girls in his state.
What would Obama do? Same damn thing.
It's one of those many nothing issues that people get crazy about at certain points in every election, and then when something even a little more interesting happens, get forgotten completely. Anyone who thinks people will be thinking about this when they have to choose who to vote for on election day is, plainly, stupid. ("Well, let's see, I can't stand Obama, but Perry ordered a vaccination that people could opt out of at will--nope, gotta go with Obama!")
Gov. Perry also said in the Reagan Library debate that, “If President Obama thinks El Paso, Texas is safer today (which Obama said at a rally during a fund raising trip to the Mexican border town), either he has the worst Intel ever, or he is an abject liar.”
Border related crime is a big problem for Texas — it cost us money and it is a human tragedy of immense scale (crime, human trafficking, drug trafficking...)
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That’s a money quote if there ever was one. Hopefully, temporarily Perry will suspend the Posse Comitatus (sry the spelling) & clean up the border. I wouldn’t go down to the valley if ya told me money was waiting for me there, far too dangerous. I’d say outside of the Middle East, the Valley is one of the most dangerous places on earth for law enforcement.
I believe in helping our veterans, rather than withdraw from Iraq & Afghan, & bring them home & de-enlist (I’m sorry discharge) them into a terrible economy. I’d like to see a Strategic Border Control Strike Force set up with atleast 25000 soldiers securing & deporting illegals in the 4 southern states, plus E-verify & voter ID go national.
…….”The Gardasil vaccine was recommended the FDA’s vaccine approval committee, more than 6 months before Governor Perry’s Executive Order. All girls who qualified for the Federal Vaccines for Children program were eligible to receive the vaccine free of charge: Medicaid, CHIPs, and uninsured or those with insurance that won’t pay for vaccines. The Texas Legislature had previously delegated unconditional authority to mandate new vaccines to the Department of State Health Services, which is under Governor Perry and the Executive Branch.” Source
The Governor’s Executive Order (RP 65) that caused all the controversy also ordered the director of DSHS to make it easier for parents to opt out of vaccines. The Legislature had changed the law from “opt in” to a requirement to “opt out” once for all the school years. Next, they changed to a two year limit on the opt out, and then in 2005, the Legislature restricted the period to one year and required a new State form bearing a “seal.” Parents had to go to Austin or start early in the summer. There were bureaucrats who maintained that the only way to get the form with the seal was to go to Austin, find the right office and make the request in person. Perry used his EO to tell the Director of DSHS to make the request (and the seal) available on-line, making it easier to “opt out.” Source
I don’t want to pay for other people’s vaccines. We pay for enough of them already. I don’t want to pay for vaccines for STDs.
Bottom line.
Perhaps Merck could do their job and offer the vaccine free to those “poor” people rather than use the taxpayers money to force the vaccine on people who do not want it.
Opt out? Why force it if a person can opt out? My best guess is that many parents might not meet deadlines or be refused.
"Science-believing audence," presumably the morons who believe in global warming and evolution.
Nevertheless, an otherwise surprising article from a MSM source.
Thanks the details on Perry’s border policy. Sounds like he’s tougher on illegal immigration than many people think.
I’m still not sure about the tuition for children of illegals, though. Sounds like O’Bummer’s rationale for socialized medicine — we will save money by spending it.
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