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The Constitution of the United States - Sept. 17, 1787
America's Party ^ | Sept. 17, 1787 | We the People

Posted on 09/16/2011 7:42:42 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: B4Ranch
"If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight!"

-- Patrick Henry


21 posted on 09/16/2011 9:45:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('...in order to...secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity...')
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To: EternalVigilance

Today in America, we are surrendering our culture to a religious foreign culture. Ibelieve that if you value something, fight for it or you will certainly lose it.!

Remember Patrick Henry when he said, “If we wish to be free, we must fight!”


22 posted on 09/16/2011 10:24:18 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: B4Ranch
"[W]here is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths...?" -- George Washington, Farewell Address

"Oaths in this country are as yet universally considered as sacred obligations." -- John Adams


23 posted on 09/16/2011 10:36:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('...in order to...secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity...')
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
"The sum of all is, if we would most truly enjoy the gift of Heaven, let us become a virtuous people; then shall we both deserve and enjoy it. While, on the other hand, if we are universally vicious and debauched in our manners, though the form of our Constitution carries the face of the most exalted freedom, we shall in reality be the most abject slaves."

-- Samuel Adams


24 posted on 09/16/2011 10:37:08 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('...in order to...secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity...')
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25 posted on 09/16/2011 11:04:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('...in order to...secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity...')
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To: EternalVigilance

John Adams statement is outdated according to our increasingly progressive liberal judicial system.

When Christians abandon their faith, as so many appear to be doing today, we might as well toss the Constitution into the pail with yesterdays New York Times newspaper. Neither of them carry the weight with our populace they once did.


26 posted on 09/16/2011 11:04:54 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: B4Ranch

Well, we better get busy then raising up representatives who understand their oath, beginning with its sacred nature.

Because that is the only hope for this free republic.


27 posted on 09/16/2011 11:09:28 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('...in order to...secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity...')
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To: EternalVigilance

28 posted on 09/16/2011 11:23:20 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: gunnyg

The difference, if any, a century, or two, makes...


29 posted on 09/16/2011 11:30:29 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: B4Ranch
By work, I mean write e mails, make phone calls, just generally be an annoying pain in the butt to everyone of our elected officials until they decide they must make the change before we drive them crazy.

And have them do what?

30 posted on 09/16/2011 11:36:36 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: EternalVigilance

That’s a cool map.


31 posted on 09/16/2011 12:01:14 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: EternalVigilance
You want to know a secret?

Okay, listen up.

This is the SECOND Constitution (it is taken from above):

Amendment XIV

Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Do you know why? Because it is REDUNDANT. And it is an axiom of law that you cannot have two laws that say the same thing. Because if you do, then you do not have a single point of ground from which your determinations can be based.

So it is another axiom of law that whenever a redundancy is found, it must be eliminated. A decision must be made as to which to keep, and the other must be destroyed.

Given that, look again at this first clause of the 14th Amendment. Notice its redundancy with the rest of the Constitution. And yet, when the Supreme Court was asked to rule on this issue, they declared it was NOT redundant.

How was this ruling possible?

Because they ruled that this Section addressed a DIFFERENT "citizen of the United States" than the rest of the Consititution!

Specifically, a "corporate citizen." A "citizen" that is somehow "created" by this act of Congress, even though it seems to be a human being. A "citizen" which, therefore, has no rights - only "privileges" the government allows it.

Or doesn't allow it.

Thus, this particular clause, of this particular Amendment, and the Supreme Court rulings that defined it, established the existence of something ALIEN to the original Constitution, but which uses ALL THE SAME NAMES AND CONCEPTS as the Constitution - so as to remain hidden in plain sight.

That done, there was only one tiny step left - but necessary. Because the government knew no one would voluntarily accept this "status," the Courts had to make one additional ruling: that the government can PRESUME anyone HAS chosen this status, and that once that presumption is made, said person has to prove they didn't.

Oh yeah, and there's even two further things the courts did: 1st, the ruled that the government doesn't have to tell you this presumption has ever been made.

And 2nd, that the courts don't have to recognize any natural human persons anymore - that they could not sit only as 14th Amendment courts and deal only with "corporate persons" for EVERYTHING (and that's why, for one example, no one can get any "standing" against Obama).

And in that way, the Original Constitution of the united States of America was rolled up, tied neatly, and put on a shelf, in favor of... what we have today.

And that's the secret.

P.S. Now you know why so many politicians and lawyers studied "Constitutional Law." They were studying THIS - and NOT what you thought they were studying.

32 posted on 09/16/2011 12:02:34 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Talisker
Should read:

And 2nd, that the courts don't have to recognize any natural human persons anymore (and not tell you about it) - that they COULD sit ONLY as 14th Amendment courts and deal ONLY with "corporate persons" for EVERYTHING (and that's why, for one example, no one can get any "standing" against Obama).

33 posted on 09/16/2011 12:06:18 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Talisker

I’ve heard that stuff before, and consider it to be a load of hooey.


34 posted on 09/16/2011 12:16:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('...in order to...secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity...')
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To: hedgetrimmer

Yeah. I stumbled across that earlier and thought so too.


35 posted on 09/16/2011 12:18:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('...in order to...secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity...')
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To: hedgetrimmer

New tagline ...


36 posted on 09/16/2011 12:59:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Truth is the first object.' -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ixtl
"The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments posted in a courthouse is this -- you cannot post 'Thou Shalt Not Steal' 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery' and 'Thou Shall Not Lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians, it creates a hostile work environment!"

-- Cable Guy

37 posted on 09/16/2011 1:09:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Truth is the first object.' -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance

Love it.


38 posted on 09/16/2011 1:43:00 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: EternalVigilance; Envisioning; waterhill

Great quote!


39 posted on 09/16/2011 3:57:45 PM PDT by ixtl
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To: ixtl

yes.it.is.


40 posted on 09/16/2011 4:07:12 PM PDT by waterhill (Got pig?)
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