Posted on 09/13/2011 1:09:14 PM PDT by xzins
“The opt out says - this is serious and you need to think about it.”
Isn’t this best (and more credibly) said to parents and daughters by the pediatrician/family doctor rather than by some political hack or government bureaucrat?
a doctor doesn’t have that kind of authority
According to the data above in this thread, there are a number of ways a young person could become infected with HPV and not have been sexually active at all.
That makes it a disease that the state should have a real interest in. However, fair disclosure, I also think the state should be involved in controlling syphilis and gonorhhea, diseases that are not as communicable as is hpv.
Levels of interest could be:
quarantine
forcible innoculation
required innoculation
required innoculation with opt out
innoculation with opt in
public service recommendation.
I would place the plague at the worst level, quarantine. I would place the common cold as a public service recommendation. I’d make hpv a required innoculation with opt out.
I never thought I'd see the day when FR motto became “I'm the government and I'm here to help”.
Can I expect you to answer with the whole truth? Here is the question for those who defend Perry’s use of EO to mandate the vaccine.
How is Perry any different on this kind of issue than Mike Bloomberg? Mayor Bloomberg mandates no smoking anywhere in his city. Bloomberg mandates no salt on restaurant tables. Etc etc. Cite: http://www.amny.com/urbanite-1.812039/bloomberg-s-salt-shakeup-1.1882403
What is the limit of limits on liberty and the choice of free adults in a free society balanced against Public Health “needs”?
Specifically how was Governor Perry’s emergency EO restriction on parental liberty, different than Mayor Bloomberg’s many assaults on the liberty of free adults in restaurants?
The difference is that smoking is not a communicable disease.
I think the government has long had a legitimate role in public health. Personally, I think the early AIDS patients should have been quarantined.
So far as the way the country deals with any disease, it is a matter of risk assessment. On the one hand you have the probability of the danger and on the other hand you have the lethality/criticality of the danger.
If you have a danger that is highly probably and highly lethal, then you must act.
If you have a danger that has a low probability of occurence and a very low criticality, then you do nothing.
Interestingly, the big issue is when there is a low probability but a high lethality. (HIV would fit this) You need to act, in my opinion.
Oh? How do you define communicable? Elite statists like Bloomerg argue that a smoker or fan of salty food communicates the habit of smoking or eating salty food to others.
Do you deny that we humans communicate both bad habits and bad disease vectors to each other?
Cervical cancer is NOT high probability. And it is only deadly in the late stages of the disease.
Nor is having warts (HPV) a sure sign one will get cervical cancer. Less than 1 in ten. And even less is one does not have many sexual partners even if one already has HPV. Why? Because a promiscuous life style with many sex partners causes a plethora of challenges to the immune system.
I laughed when I read how people get addicted to smoking by other people smoking. That would be like getting jailed cause it happened to the guy down the road.
A communicable disease is an infection that is transmissible from person to person by direct contact with that person or that person’s discharges or by indirect means
Social pressure is the greatest influence in the development of habits, both good and bad. Bad habits can spread like wildfire through a population.
Ask any single mom.
Hpv is not a bad habit. It’s a virus.
Warning: to all.
Stop kidding yourselves. About anything.
Bad behavior goes viral. It can be deadly. It is certainly life-diminishing.
Perry acted like a dictator. If you elect him ...
We'll put you in a room full of tuberculosis and measles patients, and we'll put me in a room full of people who chew and smoke.
Then we'll see who demands to get the heck out of there.
Have you had the vaccine? Has your significant other had the vaccine?
I didn’t even know about it til a few weeks ago...and, at my age, there really isn’t going to be a lot of benefit. Even if I had it, I’d be dead anyway before this stuff got around to killing me.
And fertility is no longer an issue. :>)
But put me in a room with people with of warts (HPV) and I’ll be perfectly fine. Wouldn’t I now?
You just lost by your own logic. Sorry, xzins.
Hardly, because the discussion was about rowdy behavior being contagious.
HPV, on the other, is communicable.
Warts (which are the body's sign of having HPV, the reaction the body has to the HPV) are NOT easily communicable but they are communicable only by certain bad habits, those being bad hygiene and promiscuity. The bad habits are even MORE communicable than the virus.
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