The right and wrong way to talk about Gardasil

I also received all the vaccinations that was required to start school...parents that lived before the vaccines understood the rational for them as the results of the disease could lead to the death of many....This mandate may possibly help the individual person but it is not communicated to the person sitting next to them in school...only to the one that is sexually active...I grew up before the polio vaccine and was grateful my children had the inoculations....I was aware of the catastrophic results of polio and it was highly contagious....this particular vaccine does not even approach the rational for mandate of polio, pertussion, mumps and chicken pox... I think an infant getting a hepatitis vaccine is just plain stupid also..I personally don't know anyone with hepatitis and the infant also has a immature immune system... Since it is sexually transmitted, what is being done to the males that cause the disease to manifest...or is it only the female that causes it...

Did you refuse pertussis,TB,smallpox vaccinations for your children? If so, they would never have been allowed to attend school in any system in the US. These are mandatory, and do not have an opt-out feature in Texas, or anywhere else. TB is seriously on the rise in adults and carried into Texas by illegals daily.

Aside from these precedent mandatory vaccines, it is a matter of medical opinion, subject to debate and clinical trials proof whether Human papilloma virus ranks with these other serious preventable diseases which are spread by contagion. Merck Co. sold the idea of vaccinating against 2 of the most common cancer causing strains of HPV, to be given to young girls of 11 or 12 assumed to be before sexual activity. The did this through their massive lobbying and “finding a disease in need of a drug” approach, to the US government. That is a national scandal, carried out at every state level. Someone should look into it, aside from Texas.

The cultural fact is that this HPV is on the rise among our youth precisely because there is much less behavioural constraint. Yours is not an unheard of response to vaccination. Uterine cancer resulting from HPV is a particularly ugly increasing statistic.Notwithstanding- the demographics lean toward certain ethnic groups— so perhaps this drove the activity to mandate. Black and Hispanic women have higher rates of HPV-associated cervical cancer than white women. Black women also have higher rates of HPV-associated vaginal cancer. Black men and women have higher rates of HPV-associated cancers of the oropharynx and oral cavity. Hispanic men have higher rates of HPV-associated penile cancer than non-Hispanic men. Thank you Bill Clinton for an increase in oral sex in teens.

In Texas, there should have been 1.)opt in choice and 2.) complete public education outreach.

Good kids don’t get this, period. And good parents know their kids well enough. Problem is, there are not many good parents, also due to lowered cultural norms and behaviour.

Perry’s error on this issue was not having it be an opt-in function, which he could just have easily done. The federal government (under Bush) mandated that states put Gardasil on their state paid formulary. So, like EPA regs and a thousand other things federal, Perry fought the best way for a governor- he added it to the formulary....but didn’t make it an opt in. A mistake,absolutely true- but it does not speak to some character flaw unless someone can show Perry got greased by Merck—which they wouldn’t have done because they did not have to. It was already nationalized.

What does describe ethical and legal flaws is Merck’s national lobby campaign to save it’s own financial rear end by getting the federal govt. to mandate the stocking and inoculation- true Big Brother medicine. This went hand in hand with the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. It is as bad a story as the so called deadly “flu” that wasn’t a pandemic but they hustled the vaccine no one needed. Remember? That was in 2008.

Merck was and is a major supporter of obamacare, and this top down style of medical tyranny. Rick Perry could have acted better— but Romney would have done even worse. Trying to paint Perry as some kind of obamacare lover is laughable. That Texan would be George W. Bush and his argyle socked daddy from CT.

Here is a link to a pdf file about the reality of Gardasil,and Merck’s culpability in promoting it:
http://www.nursingworld.org/MainMenuCategories/ANAPoliticalPower/State/IssuesResources/HPV/HPV.aspx

The arrogance of power here needs to be ID’d a lot higher than me or Rick Perry... it needs to be exposed as yet another intrusion on freedom. The NIH and the CDC. And,
Malkin needs to get her facts straight first, and give up on Bachman.

Did you refuse pertussis,TB,smallpox vaccinations for your children?

You ruined an otherwise good post with this opening.

Hopefully you understand why.

Ruined, how? You howled indignation at me. The answer to your question— the state has the power to require the vaccination—if we let them have it. The point in my entire post was that the feds decided this mandate, not Perry, and he tried a workaround. He could have done better, and it may be a flaw in his management style— but wasn’t totally bad no matter how others might characterize it. Malkin is nuts for Bachmann as a purist would be. She does great things, generally. Bachmann is not presidential material, but she is a great conservative voice.

All conservatives should agree there is not enough there with HPV to warrant a “mandate” from the feds. That should have been the focus, but wasn’t. Repealing obamacare and Merck and corporate crony capitalism should have been the focus, but wasn’t. Every governor faced this mandate. That was not brought out. The RINO response to this was Romney’s and the Tea Partiers saw it.

Bachmann was off point with the “drug reaction/retardation” argument which may be true. Some time back a claim of “autism” causality was made and proven false. It had nothing to do with the subject— how do you keep the feds out of our citizens’ lives?
Deo Vindice.

By comparing highly contagious diseases acquired through casual contact to a disease requiring genital contact.

And if you think that was howling you're underestimating my distaste for executive orders declaring government as the default caretaker for Americas children while parents must "request" conscientious objector status to become the caregiver.

Understand-so somebody should make the severity stick the same as these contagions. But thanks to the Bushes and obama and other statists with lawyers, they haven’t and won’t.

Everyone we know home schools— and we respect them for it. But the “locals” in the govt. school bureaucracy hate them, or consider them weird, outsiders. The children are well behaved, well read and will be successful.

It is indeed strange that to liberals, women have a “right to choose” (choose what? murder?) but parents may not. Many more of our rights are being interpreted as “negative rights” which the govt. gives US. It is, of course the other way around in our Constitution, and why we must rescue this country now.

Nothing new, modern liberals are not live and let live, they want government to control all aspects of our lives. While a conservative mav have "TOWARD FREEDOM" tatooed on his chest, a liberal would have "TOWARD GOVERNMENT". At some point in time the two will not be able to co-exist so yes it is important that the towards freedom crowd condemn all politicians that fly in the face of that.

Of course that's just my opinion and BTW the right to life is the cutting edge of freedom. Killing unborn babies cuts their freedom off severely and permanently.