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Prof. David Nagel "LENR global impact will be historic"
Cold Fusion Times ^ | Updated September 3, 2011 | Ruby Carat

Posted on 09/04/2011 9:30:41 PM PDT by Kevmo

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1 posted on 09/04/2011 9:30:46 PM PDT by Kevmo
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2 posted on 09/04/2011 9:31:31 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: All; y'all; et al

IB4TS

In Before The Seagulls


3 posted on 09/04/2011 9:32:26 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kevmo

You cannot get up early enough to get in before the seagulls.


4 posted on 09/04/2011 9:50:21 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (O assumes the trappings of the presidency, not its mantle. He is not presidential.)
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Also found at:

http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/david-j-nagel-interview-on-cah-flow-lenr-global-impact-will-be-historic/

Of course. They are all blogs, and blogs tend to copy and paste each other's material. This isn't news either. It's somebody's opinion.

5 posted on 09/04/2011 9:53:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

Yep, right on, 99% of this stuff

Even most of the Rossi stuff was either Rossi himself, him under a pseudonym or paid borrowed name, or a made up pseudonym

Even some of the Rossi Septics were Rossi, you can tell by the writing style.


6 posted on 09/04/2011 9:59:42 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Moonman62

I’ve noticed that myself. If you google lenr, cold fusion, e-cat etc, you end up with an abundance of links that circularly reference each other, and try to appear to be peer reviewed technical journals, but are really just blogs of boilerplate accolades for this “new technology”, and put-downs for the ignorant skeptics.


7 posted on 09/04/2011 10:03:34 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

put-downs for the ignorant skeptics.

***Ignorant skeptics deserve to be put down. Informed skeptics are worthwhile. It’s the ignorant hyperskeptics who are the seagulls. Look how fast they moved in on this thread.


8 posted on 09/04/2011 10:08:22 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Moonman62

And name-calling. Stupid monikers like “seagulls” for example.


9 posted on 09/04/2011 10:10:50 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Kevmo

You know, your latest blog regurgitation uses the word “if” 28 times. Like I said, it isn’t news. It’s a lot of opinion and name dropping that is an attempt to give a scam some credibility.


10 posted on 09/04/2011 10:17:45 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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11 posted on 09/04/2011 10:21:56 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: SpaceBar
And name-calling. Stupid monikers like “seagulls” for example.

As I've told Kevmo before, I find the name calling motivational.

12 posted on 09/04/2011 10:26:38 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Charlie the seagull is a well-intentioned manager who, when faced with new challenges after previously leading his flock to success, fails to understand how his management style is holding back, rather than helping, his team.

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13 posted on 09/04/2011 10:28:59 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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“I’ve seen his technology but I don’t know at all what his secret is. Now I’ve read the speculation, I have my own suspicions, but no, I am not on the inside of that loop and I don’t know anybody who is .

Rossi says he uses a resistor to heat the hydrogen. Perhaps he's using a magic hot plate.

14 posted on 09/04/2011 10:32:35 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62; Lurker

What would motivate you to read up on the technical material available?

Never mind, nothing can meet such a high bar of ultracriticism. Perhaps the lurkers might understand the better question would be, what would motivate a rational person to read up on LENR?


15 posted on 09/04/2011 10:44:35 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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16 posted on 09/04/2011 11:10:37 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Kevmo

There is no “technical material” that would substitute for hard proof. Not evidence, proof. No one needs an advanced degree to see that transistors work, motors work, nuclear energy works. I’ve seen the backhand claim on earlier threads that the skeptics simply haven’t been reading the right technical material. No. The general public requires proof. Incontrovertable, and performed by people with impeccible credentials, unafiliated in any way with Rossi, Focardi et al. But then they claim they’ll have their “technology” stolen by said independent labs. How convenient is that.


17 posted on 09/04/2011 11:11:16 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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I've read a lot of the papers, mostly from the early research and Rossi seems to be onto something pretty big.
Most times, the arguments revolve around instrument and method of measurement, all of which can be put to bed with results. At this point, perhaps enough time has finally passed since the assassination attempts during the "cold fusion" era for this to become an accepted possibility.
I need to catch up, but Rossi isn't releasing a lot of detail about his current method. Rossi is no joke, he's the real thing. He is claiming excess at a factor of 6 and factors of 200 under certain circumstances. The thing I haven't seen yet (if it has even been released) is the success rates and if they have increased dramatically. From the sound of it, he is almost indirectly telling us he has made the process repeatable.

I almost always laugh at all the repeating "free energy" kooks and their reinvention of the same old failed processes that crop up every year or 2... but this one is different. There is actual data behind the claims, and the claims are coming from respected individuals, and not just Rossi either... and the claims are being substantiated on top of it all. Most of them stay out of the spotlight because of all the bast attacks from the mainstream foundation.

I personally believe the world needs to be ready for this in the next 5-10 years... the hardest parts to envision will be the positive and/or catastrophic changes in global influence if and when oil/coal and natural gas become less of a factor

18 posted on 09/04/2011 11:22:52 PM PDT by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: SpaceBar

No real issue here, for those who will simply wait around for Rossi’s demo, one way or another.

I have noticed that folks who have trouble thinking inductively tend to run home to Momma on the issue of Proof. They also, like you have just done, tend to use it as an excuse not to read up on the subject at hand.


19 posted on 09/04/2011 11:55:00 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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The presumptive and condescending nature of your post above shows that when you are backed into a corner, and someone mentions proof, you resort to trying to attack the credibility of the messenger. Obviously I can’t reason linearly and stubbornly fail to read “the right stuff” otherwise I’d come around and see the light. Right? Incidently, you are doing precisely what you are accusing others of doing: running home to mother when someone mentions proof. I mentioned proof, and you leveled the accusation that “people like me” just can’t take the heat because we have faulty mental faculties and don’t read enough. Pathetic. And yes, your posts should be filed under “blogs”.


20 posted on 09/05/2011 12:18:10 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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