“No political cross dressers.
NO RINOs.”
Posted on 09/01/2011 11:48:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
That said, these pundits and operators need to understand the lack of enthusiasm for Romney among the base because of Romneycare and the flip-flops.
Perry, in contrast, is already drawing lots of enthusiasm. And I don't buy he's unelectable. Perry has repeatedly won the Governorship in one of the biggest states in the Union.
Bottom line is I will vote for the nominee over Barry because I think it is essential to the future of the nation to turn that bunch out as soon as possible. But there are some in the base who will not vote for Romney and the pundits need to get that.
It's best to let some people run off at the mouth, because they telegraph the punches.
Around here, the Perry controversy has been over whether or not he's a RINO. Perry defenders have been saying he's a true-red conservative. After reading this thread, it occurred to me that the Mittster might be preparing to blindside Perry by painting him as a "dangerous extremist" in the upcoming debate. Old Mitt's been taking some flack for being too unaggressive. He lambasting Perry for being a crypto-extremist would make him look like a contender, at least to his supporters.
There's also the family connection. In 1964, Mitt's father George was Rockefeller's attack dog in the primary. He grabbed the "Goldwater = extremist" ball and ran with it, hard.
Had the Left not gotten blabbermouthy, Romney stood a good chance with the blindside. Imagine: Perry's supporters spend time and trouble defending him against the charge of being a RINO, only to be hit by the Mittbots for being "dangerous extremists." Speaking as a political technician, it would have been a neat pincer move on the Mittster's part.
That said, Perry skeptics have a little more grist. The usual reflex response to the charge of "right-wing extremist" is move closer to RINO territory. Whether it comes from libs or the Mittsters, or both, Perry's going to pasted with it. How he reacts will show how conservative he really is.
IMHO...
All I can respond with is...
Working hard is part of it, but of course, not all.
Doing good for Texas does not require so much effort - and that’s a compliment to Texans in general. The state is chock full of people with conservative values. The elected politicians reflect the will of the voters. The elected legislators are on a fairly conservative wavelength. The whole state is pro-business.
Now if we consider Congress... yuck. Enormous pressure to Compromise. A whole different story. A band of a few stalwarts, mixed in with a whole lot of crooks, crackpots and union stooges, etc.
What I see passing for laws in Congress nowadays could have been written by Satan himself in many cases.
How few in Washington can so no. A “conservative” President will have to somehow be a rock - in spite of media bashing them constantly, deriding them, Hollywood mocking them, 95% of school teachers and university professors agitating against them, etc., etc. Huge healthcare companies, environmental groups - an endless list - of lobbyists.
Somehow Bachmann, Cain and Santorum are the only ones I can imagine, in my mind (???), putting up any obstacles to business-as-usual in Washington.
I hearken back to “no-child-left-behind”. It sounded great to me at first hearing, because it would rattle the cages of the teacher’s union by actually holding them to an objective standard - what a novel idea. But a Constitutional originalist would have opposed such a thing as an overreach of the Feral government. We need NO participation in education on the part of the Feral government, not more. So in the end, it’s a mistake of the Bush administration. Even though it sounded so good.
That kind of Feral government expansion is what I fear from Perry. The kind where the government is attempting to “help”. And, even the status quo - is not good enough. Government must radically shrink and we need a shrinker-in-chief.
Eh, for what it’s worth...
“He will bring that same zeal and love of country to the White House.”
Love of which country? The United States or Mexico?
Because Perry signed off on penalizing you financially if you’re an American citizen from Nevada and want to go to school in Texas. You pay full freight.
You are, however, rewarded if you’re a Mexican citizen and you want to go to college in Texas. You pay less than Americans. And on the backs of Texas state taxpayers, who pay for those schools.
So stop trying to minimize Perry’s support of the odious, unAmerican DREAM Act.
I won’t sugarcoat this post. This is a very bitter post. Let me start by stressing that I am not attempting to suppress anyone’s opinions, nor do I intend to demean the anti-Perry cabal personally for its beliefs or worldviews. Nature is a wonderful teacher. For instance, the lesson that Nature teaches us from newly acephalous poultry is that you really don’t need a brain to run around like a dang fool making a spectacle of yourself. Nature also teaches us that there may be nothing we can do to prevent the anti-Perry cabal from making good on its word to threaten our core values, allegiances, and beliefs. I have read some of the anti-Perry cabal’s postings. While I disagree with much of their content, I do not intend to attack the anti-Perry cabal’s opinions, only to offer my own viewpoints. Let’s get down to brass tacks: The anti-Perry cabal complains a lot. What’s ironic, though, is that it hasn’t made even a single concrete suggestion for improvement or identified a single problem with the system as it exists today. When we compare this disturbing conclusion to the comforting picture purveyed by its trucklers, we experience psychological stress or “cognitive dissonance”. Our only recourse is to announce that we need to stop the anti-Perry cabal before it can create a factitious demand for its ghastly theatrics.
Might I suggest that fieldmarshaldj search for a hobby? It seems he has entirely too much time on his hands, given how often he tries to conspire with evil. Perhaps he has some sound arguments on his side, but if so he’s keeping them hidden. I’d say it’s far more likely to hear fieldmarshaldj say that the most valuable skill one can have is the ability to lie convincingly. I have to wonder about him. Is he entirely selfish? Is he simply being hotheaded? Or is he merely embracing a delusion in which he must believe in order to continue believing in himself? This is not a question that we should run away from. Rather, it is something that needs to be addressed quickly and directly because the biggest supporters of fieldmarshaldj’s virulent claims are caustic, crass suborners of perjury and humorless lowlifes.
RED SOUTH twists every argument into some sort of “struggle” between two parties. RED SOUTH unvaryingly constitutes the underdog party, which is what he claims gives him the right to gum up what were once great ideas. He acts as if he were King of the World. This hauteur is astonishing, staggering, and mind-boggling. Two quick comments: 1) RED SOUTH mistakes torrents of verbiage for springs of capital truths, and 2) there is something grievously wrong with those judgmental hostes generis humani who make my worst nightmares come true. Shame on the lot of them! His flock appears to be growing in number. I decidedly pray that this is analogous to the flare-up of a candle just before extinction, yet I keep reminding myself that the first lies that he told us were relatively benign. Still, they have been progressing. And they will continue to progress until there is no more truth; RED SOUTH’s lies will grow until they blot out the sun.
Diogenesis’s postings are a pastiche of cuckoo extremism and subversive interventionism. I wish I could put it more delicately, but that would miss the point. People sometimes ask me why I seem incapable of saying anything nice about Diogenesis. I’d like to—really, I would. The problem is, I can’t think of anything nice to say. I guess that’s not surprising when you consider that if Diogenesis manages to spread lies, propaganda, and misinformation, our nation will not endure as a civilization, as a geopolitical entity, or even as a society. Rather, it will exist only as a prison, a prison in which ill-tempered showboaters brandish the word “Gardasil” (as it is commonly spelled) to hoodwink people into believing that without Diogenesis’s superior guidance, we will go nowhere. The facts are in: The agenda that Diogenesis is attempting to advance is one of repression.
South40 is trapped in a vicious cycle. The more opposition to his viewpoints he faces, the more yawping he becomes. The more yawping he becomes, the more opposition to his viewpoints he faces. We must lay out some ideas and interpretations that hold the potential for insight. Our children depend on that. Maybe South40 has a reason for acting the way he does, but I doubt it. His inclinations are based on a technique I’m sure you’ve heard of. It’s called “lying”.
Even org.whodat’s associates don’t care much for his political objectives; they simply wish to associate with other insidious twerps and render unspeakable and unthinkable whole categories of beliefs about power. Whenever someone tells him not to lead a quixotic jihad against those who oppose him, org.whodat gets all teary-eyed. My, my; how sad. My heart bleeds for him; it really does. If there’s an untold story here, it’s that it is not news that his postings epitomize our most poxy instincts. What speaks volumes, though, is that org.whodat believes that those who disagree with him should be cast into the outer darkness, should be shunned, should starve. If that’s the limit of org.whodat’s perception, acumen, and intelligence, then God help him.
Eternal Vigilance attracts the most mischievous scum I’ve ever seen to his terrorist organization by telling them that all it takes to start a rabbit farm is a magician’s magic hat. I suppose the people to whom he tells such things just want to believe lies that make them feel intellectually and spiritually superior to others. Whether or not that’s the case, unlike Eternal Vigilance, when I make a mistake I’m willing to admit it. Consequently, if—and I’m bending over backwards to maintain the illusion of “innocent until proven guilty”—he were not actually responsible for trying to divert us from proclaiming what in our innermost conviction is absolutely necessary, then I’d stop saying that Eternal Vigilance ignores the most basic ground rule of debate. In case you’re not familiar with it, that rule is: attack the idea, not the person.
The anti-Perry cabal believes that it is perched atop the moral high ground. If so, then maybe it should climb down to scavenge for some facts before claiming that it has answers to everything. The anti-Perry cabal believes that lying is morally justifiable as long as it’s referred to as “strategic deception”. That’s a stupid thing to believe in. It’s like saying that it answers to no one. To summarize what I’ve written up to this point, what the anti-Perry cabal seems to be forgetting is that it has never given expression to any thought or sentiment that could worthily elicit the praise, or even the favorable mention, of the better portion of mankind. You know I’m right. Now what are you going to do about it?
“Perry plays well in Texas. No one knows how well will do outside of that state.”
He’s barely gotten started and already polls show him neck and neck with the increasingly unpopular Obama.
guys, lets cut the garbage about “X isn’t electable”. Hogwash. If Bachmann, Perry or Romney are the GOP nominee, they will beat Obama. Why?
9% UNEMPLOYMENT! Obama is a big fat FAIL. All we need is a good conservative who can run a good campaign. Perry knows that.
Polls are already showing this - Obama is consistently under 50% in head to head matchups. Only about 43% of die-hard folks on his side ...
“The only way BHO can win is to destroy his opponent and raising huge doubts. The things Perry has said about Social Security give plenty of ammo to the Dems.”
Perry has only stated what people already know.
Romney, if he gets the nomination, we beat Obama. So will most of the GOP nominees. pretty much whoever we nominate that runs a good campaign will beat Obama like a stick.
“The enthusiasm gap would be too much.”
LOL, and who has any enthusiasm for ‘the one’?
Nobody!
WHOEVER the GOP nominates will get my enthusiastic vote, for the simple reason that I will feel joy seeing the end of the Obama error.
But Perry/Rubio will be our best slate IMHO.
Thank you for taking the time to write up this summary of the thuggish behavior by this group of haters. I do not think these folks are anti-Perry as much as they are anti-Other. They have the candidates they support. They viciously and ignorantly attack anyone who is of a different opinion. It has created an atmosphere that discourages intelligent discourse.
I suppose I should spill the beans about that post. It’s a joke intended to rattle the “anti-Perry cabal’s” cages. It’s a cut and paste job(with some minor editing) from Scott Pakin’s Complaint Generator website. ;-P
What the Republican nominee has to worry about is a background that will undermine his support among independents and conservative Republicans. Romney is a socialist health care guy - the issue which launched conservatives and independents out of their easy chairs and into the streets. Sociaized medicine elected a majority Republican House. If they put in Romney, we will have Obama for a second term.
Why is it that it’s always the same usual group of RINO buffoons, trolls and assclowns on this website that champion the worst candidates imaginable this party can put up ?
Goodness, look who’s talking ! California’s #1 Slick Willard groupie. Talk about thugs...
Well that was excellent and your honesty was refreshing. That Perry-hating cabal could use some for they are a disgrace to everything they claim to represent. They know better but have nothing to offer but deception. Most of them claim to be religious but their tactics are the same as Alinski.
I’ve seen these same kinds of puritans here since the place opened. 4 elections and they’ve never supported the Republican for office. There’s always an excuse for them to vote Buchannon or Paul or Libertarian or Constitution party or just stay home. Anything but (R) for them.
For the first time ever, some of them have found the perfect Republican in Palin. Well, until she actually enters the race and then half of them will realize she’s not pure by their standards and they’ll start bashing her.
Bottom line: they are as irrelevent as gnats but twice as annoying. I hear thim buzzing, buzzing, buzzing on every thread but they add nothing of value to any topic.
Then again, SOME people fall for the first pretty face that comes along and lose their marbles when others expose them as being anything but what they believe them to be... in this case, Perry not being a solid Conservative.
And for the record, I have never supported Pat Buchanan or Dr. Demento.
You are quite an abusive poster, such as in your post #44.
URLs were posted about a candidate’s past behavior,
and you, you little skunk, unable to rebut the FACTS,
impugned the posters.
Are you a RomneyBOT? PerryBOT? RoveBOT? or does
it not matter any more? You are one with Obama.
Deal with the FACTS.
Doubt that you are able.
How strange it is that the PerryBOTs and RomneyBOTs
excel in backstabbing.
Is that a part of RINOship?
Thuggish? Gardisil by Executive Order is thuggery,
you little RomneyBOT.
Thuggish? RomneyCARE is thuggery, you little RomneyBOT.
LOL
“No political cross dressers.
NO RINOs.”
Do some checking to what the Center for Disease Control says about vaccinations against HPV:
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