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All traces of Perry/Aga Khan curriculum removed from web
Jihad Watch ^ | August 28, 2011 | ROBERT SPENCER

Posted on 08/29/2011 6:35:07 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan

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To: Cheetahcat

The same thing happened in Sugar Land, TX—from the governor’s website:
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/3149/.

“Gov. Perry has been a long-time supporter and friend of the Ismaili community as Texas is home to tens of thousands of Ismaili Muslims who contribute to the social, economic and cultural fabric of the state. The governor and the Aga Kahn opened the Ismaili Jamatkhana in Sugar Land in 2002; Gov. Perry has welcomed His Highness to Texas on two occasions, and met with him in France to share ideas and common philosophies. To further inform Americans about the historical and cultural roots of Muslim societies, the University of Texas established the Muslim Histories and Cultures Project, training secondary school teachers in a curriculum on Muslim civilizations.”

Perry attended the dedication ceremonies in Sugar Land.


101 posted on 08/29/2011 10:20:12 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: RowdyFFC

It had NOTHING to do with federal grants. PERIOD. It was a TEXAS only program PAID for ny a grant from aha khan.
You tried this before. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now. Get over it.


102 posted on 08/29/2011 10:25:06 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: RowdyFFC

Of course you don’t car. Truth isn’t worth caring about if you caanget perry into he Whitehoue. Let me sk you omething. prry panders to EACH nd evey individual group. Isn’t this still America? Or don’t you care if he takes his buddies with him to DC?

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/04/11/0411agaperry.html

Perry to host Muslim sect’s spiritual leader
Aga Khan, governor to sign UT pact with Mideast university.
By W. Gardner Selby
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Friday, April 11, 2008
Texas Gov. Rick Perry plans to host a private dinner followed by fireworks near Austin on Saturday to honor the Aga Khan, a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad celebrating his 50th year as the spiritual leader of a Muslim sect.

Earlier in the day, the leaders are expected to be on hand as the University of Texas signs an agreement with Aga Khan University, which has campuses in Pakistan and other countries, fostering student and teacher exchanges between the institutions.

Rick Perry Governor has been friends with Aga Khan for years.
Aga Khan Harvard grad is descendant of the Prophet Muhammad.
Khan, a wealthy, Harvard-educated businessman and philanthropist, leads the Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims, an offshoot of the Shiite branch of Islam, claiming 12 million to 16 million believers in 25 countries including tens of thousands in Texas.

Perry, 58, and Khan, 71, struck up an improbable friendship nearly a decade ago, resulting in a UT program exposing schoolteachers to Muslim beliefs and culture.

The jet-setting Khan grew up in Kenya and lives in France and owns hundreds of race horses. Perry was born and raised in West Texas before earning a degree at Texas A&M University.

In 2000, Perry, then lieutenant governor, visited the Aga Khan in Paris during a family trip to Europe.

Two years later, Perry and the Aga Khan visited during the opening of the Ismaili Jamatkhana and Center built in Sugar Land near Houston and at an Austin dinner hosted by Perry.

The Aga Khan Development Network subsequently funded the UT program, which has introduced 80 Texas schoolteachers to Muslim history and culture; 15 teachers have toured the Middle East, Europe and Asia.

In 2006, Perry visited a Pakistan relief center financed by the network. And last year, Perry looked at an unfinished Ismaili center in Dubai that a travel mate described as an architectural and cultural wonder that the Aga Khan is expected to replicate, to a degree, in Houston.

Eric Bearse, an outside adviser to Perry, said Saturday’s “golden jubilee” event at the Texas Disposal Systems Exotic Game Ranch and Pavilion in Buda is “an opportunity for His Highness to be in the presence of a vibrant Ismaili community in Texas as well as to be with his friend, the governor.”

Perry and his wife, Anita, will dine with the religious leader at a downtown hotel tonight.

Shahed Amanullah of Austin, editor-in-chief of altmuslim.com, said the Aga Khan has a solid reputation among Muslims because of his good works, partly through the development network. The network spends $350 million a year on economic, social and cultural projects concentrated in South Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

“There are a lot of non-Ismaili Muslims around the world who wish they had a leader that is as organized and as visionary,” Amanullah said

Perry, who is a member of a Methodist church, and the Aga Khan emphasize the need for the Western world to understand Eastern values and vice versa. After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Aga Khan said differences between Muslim-dominated countries and the Christian-dominant West don’t reflect the clash of civilizations so much as clashes of ignorance.

Neither Perry’s office nor members of the Ismaili community said who is paying for Saturday’s invitation-only party nor did they divulge who will attend it. Perry spokesman Robert Black said it would not be financed by the state or from economic development funds.

About 20,000 to 30,000 people are expected to hear the Aga Khan on Sunday in San Antonio. His U.S. schedule also includes stops in Georgia, Illinois and California.

Noor Jehan, whose family owns an Austin dry-cleaning business, intends to spend the weekend in San Antonio for the jubilee. “It’s a big, big occasion for us,” Jehan said.

Asked if Ismaili Muslims liken the Aga Khan’s standing to the stature of the pope for Catholics, Jehan said. “He’s not a pope, who’s elected by cardinals. The Aga Khan is not elected by anybody. ... He is a very special leader.”

Jehan was referring to the Aga Khan becoming Imam or spiritual leader of the Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims in July 1957, succeeding his grandfather, Sir Sultan Mahomed Shah Aga Khan III, a former president of the League of Nations.

Aga Khan

Born in Geneva, Switzerland, Dec. 13, 1936

Grew up in Nairobi, Kenya

Attended Swiss boarding school before Harvard University, where he graduated with honors with a degree in Islamic history

Succeeded his grandfather, Sir Sultan Mahomed Shah Aga Khan, as the Ismaili Imamat at the age of 20 on July 11, 1957, becoming the 49th hereditary spiritual leader (Imam) of the Shia Ismaili Muslims

Wealth reportedly exceeds $1 billion


103 posted on 08/29/2011 10:30:09 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: Hop A Long Cassidy
"The same thing happened in Sugar Land, TX—from the governor’s website: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/3149/. “Gov. Perry has been a long-time supporter and friend of the Ismaili community as Texas is home to tens of thousands of Ismaili Muslims who contribute to the social, economic and cultural fabric of the state. The governor and the Aga Kahn opened the Ismaili Jamatkhana in Sugar Land in 2002; Gov. Perry has welcomed His Highness to Texas on two occasions, and met with him in France to share ideas and common philosophies. To further inform Americans about the historical and cultural roots of Muslim societies, the University of Texas established the Muslim Histories and Cultures Project, training secondary school teachers in a curriculum on Muslim civilizations.” Perry attended the dedication ceremonies in Sugar Land."

Shocking, this is a Christian Nation, these people do not belong here,Our freedom is a tool they use against us,How do you trust them?

104 posted on 08/29/2011 10:34:39 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: RowdyFFC; Hop A Long Cassidy; Cheetahcat; The Bronze Titan

And BTW, the aga khan does NOT attend his OWN mosques ever, and he never did. HE is a practicing suni. A wahabist. He has never once prayed with his own followers.


105 posted on 08/29/2011 10:38:10 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

The part you made up was about my words suggesting any support of appeasement. You just made up a fake opponent with ideas you can denounce. You made two false claims in this post; I didn’t claim Taquyya was an idea you dreamed up, nor did I deny it. Again, you deflect rather than discuss, and posture to an audience that doesn’t exist rather than try to seriously discuss an issue.

You CAN oppose Sharia law and still support the 1st amendment protection against interference with religion.

Your argument presumes that we can effectively remove Islam from the list of recognized religions. You are free to believe Islam isn’t a religion. I’m not going to even try to argue the point, because it’s a moot point. Islam is RECOGNIZED as a religion, and until you can point to a SINGLE politician who supports changing that, all of your protestations to the contrary make no difference whatsoever. Again, we are talking about choosing a presidential candidate — which one agrees with you?

So, to make this perfectly clear, just in case someone gets confused by your lying about my position: I oppose Islam — both the political and religious aspects. It’s a false religion, one that we pray each week in church that people will be saved from. I don’t think Taquyya is made up, that’s just a false claim. I don’t deny it, because I didn’t speak about it at all, which was another false claim.

I have no interest in reading the Koran, which is a false book of a false religion.

Most Americans, at least most conservatives, understand why the 1st amendment exists, and why we need to keep the government out of the religion-picking business, even though that means false religions abound. It is tempting to some people to look to the federal government to implent our personal beliefs, especially when a religion is so clearly bad as Islam is, and the 1st amendment protects us from that evil temptation which would otherwise consume our country.

But obviously you can’t argue against the 1st amendment. I think that’s why you claim I said things I didn’t, to set up a straw man you CAN argue with. As if you were trying to win a debating point with a non-existant audience, rather than discuss an issue.


106 posted on 08/29/2011 10:39:44 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: thouworm

Better late than never. Vaeh was on a tear today.


107 posted on 08/29/2011 10:40:38 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: MestaMachine

I know who Aga Khan is Mesta...he was doing business in Texas 50 years before Rick Perry became governor of this state. Aga Khan is the only freaking Muslim trying to educate his people out of their ignorance and control by their dogma. For that he deserves a lot of credit.

And for your information, there have been Arabic studies in every university of every state since the 1960’s. As well as Far Eastern Studies, Latin American Studies, African Studies, Mongol/Turk Studies, Russian Studies, Jewish Studies and most every other civilization on the earth.

You’re attempts are just getting totally pathetic.


108 posted on 08/29/2011 10:43:03 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: CharlesWayneCT

islam is not a religion. It’s a politic disguised as areligion. It is a government that seeks to overthrow the Constitution AND the United States of America. Blow your bad wind in some other direction.


109 posted on 08/29/2011 10:45:02 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Yep. Perry is apparently ‘the won’. All information must be erased so he can take Obama’s place without challenge.


110 posted on 08/29/2011 10:47:01 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: RowdyFFC
What, you don't care that Perry was "investigated" by an Ethics committee? I wonder how that turned out? It was 2004, so I presume they finished that investigation by now, but I don't see any perry-opponents posting "Ethics committee finds Perry Guilty". I guess that answers THAT question.

Gee, I hope when Palin announces, the Paul supporters don't spend their time posting the more than dozen times she was investigated for ethics complaints. That would be a real drag, especially since we know how those all turned out. But apparently, it's the seriousness of the charge now.

111 posted on 08/29/2011 10:48:51 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RowdyFFC

You are completely wrong about aga khan. He smiles, so you think he is benign and benevolent. You are a fool. He is a suni. He is as much a suni as the 19 hijackers of 9/11.


112 posted on 08/29/2011 10:50:17 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: MestaMachine

Well, Khan certainly attended the mosque opening in Houston, the ONE TIME Perry made a speech there at the opoening of it. I have no freaking clue whether Khan prayed that night or not.

Perry makes speeches to every other religious and civic organization gathering he attends.


113 posted on 08/29/2011 10:51:16 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: CharlesWayneCT

That he was investigated was NOT the point of the post. That he was in the Bahamas YEARS ago with someone who perry supporters insisted he didn’t know was the point. Get your head on straight and stop twisting facts. I know how much you rely on twisting facts, but it won’t work.


114 posted on 08/29/2011 10:53:45 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: MestaMachine

Well, like you said, Mesta, Khan doesn’t join his Muslim brothers, nor did he drive a plane into any buildings like the Mozlem Brotherhood clan did.

So I guess all the hooey you’re posting is just more krap!


115 posted on 08/29/2011 10:54:39 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: MestaMachine

OK, you believe that, and I’m not going to argue with you. It would be a pointless exercise in futility, and it’s a moot point anyway.

We are talking politics, so let’s just apply your belief — name ONE elected federal politician who will be willing to sponsor a bill declaring that Islam is not a religion.

It makes NO difference politically that you believe Islam is not a religion. NOBODY running for president agrees with you. Palin tweets to “peace-loving muslims”, so don’t pretend she is one of you. And when she argued against the Mosque at ground zero, she argued that it should be built somewhere else, not that muslims should be prohibited from building Mosques.

What about Cain? Has he said that muslims should be prohibited from practicing their “religion”? Bachmann? Santorum? who IS this candidate that you would support who would agree with you?

Which candidate is willing to throw out 1st amendment protections for Islam?


116 posted on 08/29/2011 11:01:06 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RowdyFFC
I know who Aga Khan is Mesta...he was doing business in Texas 50 years before Rick Perry became governor of this state. Aga Khan is the only freaking Muslim trying to educate his people out of their ignorance and control by their dogma. For that he deserves a lot of credit.

This "eeeeeevil pro-dhimmi Texas curricula with Aga Khan as a masked supervillain" story was utterly debunked, and is now only peddled about by the likes of Pamela Gellar and (normally sane) Robert Spencer.

The reason this story is getting no traction is that the more you read, the lamer it gets. Almost painfully so.

The whole idea that "if you learn anything about Islam other than 'it must be nuked' then you're a dhimmi" is easy fodder for internet commandos, but the real world, knowledge, even knowledge of potentially bad things, is important. Dealing with constituents isn't optional, either. You build bridges where you can, and co-opt groups against your enemies. Or your enemies will win the next election. It is what it is.

117 posted on 08/29/2011 11:01:29 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I am not talking to YOU about Palin, Cain, or any other politician. I was speaking directly to YOU about islam. And because “everyone does it” is not an excuse to overlook the truth...even though you seem to think so.


118 posted on 08/29/2011 11:07:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The very last sentence in my post was about Taquyya. The very first sentence in yours claimed I made things up.

You seem to think that America HAS to RESPECT Islam as a “Religion”. We do not when it actively works to destroy us. I defy you to find a single instance in the BOR/Constitution that says “We must allow religions within our borders whose clear intent is the replacement of the Constitution” or “anything remotely close to it.”

The 1st Am. is not a suicide pact. Deal with reality, not fantasy. Islam makes no exceptions for America in its stated goal to dominate the world.

Please explain to the class why you feel the 1st Am. allows an enemy to use religion to destroy us.

I don’t care if ANY Pols support you. Islam is a political system incorporating religion. That we have 535 potential idiots doesn’t change reality, nor history. And you notice that Pols like Allen West and others who speak against Islam, Sharia et all that evil, are doing rather well with that particular subject. That indicates public support. The proposed anti sharia laws? Again, public support.

And there little old you sits on the wrong side of the argument and supporting the acceptance of that which would destroy America. Does not speak well for your intelligence. What it says for your alligences is self evident.

BTW, are you a Muslim or have close Muslim relatives/friends that make you think this way? But thanks to Taquyya, would you admit it if you were? See the problem?


119 posted on 08/29/2011 11:17:23 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: MestaMachine
You may be speaking to me about Islam, but the topic of the thread, and the topic I have been discussing, is whether a candidate should be expected to prohibit the building of a mosque, and by inference, whether the government should ban Islam. The whole point of the thread is to "vet" a candidate. If Perry is to be rejected because he doesn't think Islam should be banned, then what candidate are we supposed to support? You may want to hijack the thread for your own purposes; I've already told you that I'm not going to argue with you over whether Islam is a religion, because it's a moot point for this discussion. It makes no difference whether you or I believe Islam is a religion. As a practical matter, I don't even know how we would discuss the issue, because I have no idea what you are going to use as the definition of a "religion", although it appears that you believe it involves not having a political goal -- which may be bothersome given the old testament's clear political focus on a Jewish nation, but I don't think you would argue that Judaism isn't a religion simply because it also contained a large dose of criminal and civil laws.

My point is that it makes no difference -- Islam is defined as a religion, by any rational definition of "religion" as used in our political system. You won't find any mainstream politician that will argue against Islam as a religion, you won't ever find support to make a law finding Islam is not a religion, you won't ever get a court to remove 1st amendment protection for the building of a worship center for Islam.

None of this has anything to do with what you or I believe about Islam -- it's an attack on one candidate for a standard that absolutely NO candidate would meet, which simply shows that the standard is a red herring. As another freeper said, the point is to post canard after canard and make Perry supporters (and others who simply like the truth) play "Whack-a-Mole" rather than positively supporting and promoting their candidate.

120 posted on 08/29/2011 11:19:31 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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