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Wasserman Schultz attacks Bachmann suggestion of Everglades drilling
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Posted on 08/29/2011 11:40:40 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: thackney

I wonder what her family land development interests are in the area.

her brother in law and sister are local political creatures who have had “ahem” difficulties with laws.


81 posted on 08/29/2011 3:28:46 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Two-thirds of voters (65 percent) said that restoring the Everglades was an important issue to them personally, and 55 percent were opposed to Scott’s budget proposal to cut Everglades restoration funding from $50 million to $17 million next year.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2011/02/terrance-group-voters-arent-keen-on-scotts-everglades-growth-management-plans.html

Are you saying they wanted to build Disneyworld in the Everglades? I have never heard that.


82 posted on 08/29/2011 3:33:38 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: longtermmemmory

Seems to me that most opposition to oil drilling comes from a lack of understanding, usually driven by people who deliberately cloud the issue.

The environmentalists pushed the great lakes directional drilling ban with photos of offshore oil rigs and oil soaked sea birds. Neither of which are remotely honest in regards to directional drilling from shore (actually 1000 or more feet from the waterline) BTW there have been 8 directional wells drilled under the lakes before the ban with no problems.

My neighbor has certainly changed his views, in part because of me but also because he has more time to study the facts since his retirement. He votes in Florida now because that’s where his primary residence is.


83 posted on 08/29/2011 3:37:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: sargon

She’s gotta learn to be smart and pick her battles better.


84 posted on 08/29/2011 4:13:56 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Sub-Driver

“Our Debbie” will hopefully become unelected Debbie.

In the meantime, what Lil’ Debbie doesn’t know is that the Evergaldes has an oil bearing formation going from the raccoon Point area well out onto the Continental Shelf off the Florida West Coast. As a matter of fact, a friend who is an oil industry consultant verified the above.

PS I have seen oil samples from the well which was just a couple of stone throws from my place in the interior of the ‘Glades.

PPS What is the reason for the infestation of Lil Debbies? First it was Debbie Jansen, who couldn’t call sex on an anesthetized puma (she said a female was a male!) and now we get another Lil Debbie.

As Kennedy said, “There just ain’t no justice.”


85 posted on 08/29/2011 9:21:52 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“They take the glades very seriously.”

It has been drilled for decades.


86 posted on 08/29/2011 9:24:21 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: sargon

“It is probably the case that a catastrophic oil drilling accident which occurred in the Everglades would be an environmental disaster of monumental proportions, at least for the state.”

In which alternative universe would such a straw dog of a hypothesized spill be an environmental disaster of monumental proportions?

Calm thy self and do try to remember that when the Everglades lawn dart crashed when full of fuel just after taking off, the area of “impact” was minimal and some 20,000+ pounds was slammed into a very small area.

The impact was in an area I had been in before. After a few months had passed, it looked the same as it had previous to the crash.

So much for “hydrocarbon caused monumental disaster” syndrome.


87 posted on 08/29/2011 9:42:49 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: longtermmemmory

“People still talk about the super mega screw up of the miami politicians when they rejected disneyworld.”

I first heard that from Dr. Earl R. Rich, who stated that Audubon, and a faculty member, and a notorious Audubon ‘activist’ who shall remain unnamed, other than my dubbing him “Fat Bob”, was in it as far as he could wriggle.

If Miami could trade its Liberals and enviro/whacko types for DisneyWorld, it would so do in a New York moment.


88 posted on 08/29/2011 9:47:52 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: GladesGuru

Michigan is physically very similar to Florida in fact its probably swampier and our people are far more environmentally touchy about things and we drill everywhere. Swamps are natural filters.

The Embridge spill didn’t pan out to be the vast catastrophe some hoped it would be and there are some facts that were missed by the media. One big fact that was missed is the fact that there wasn’t a state inspector on the payroll as required for some ten years or more.


89 posted on 08/30/2011 4:08:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: GladesGuru
Look, the fact is, the majority of the citizenry of this state will continue to jealously protect the Everglades, whether rational or not. There are not any significant oil reserves to be tapped there. 1,800 barrels a day of low grade crude which is full of sulphur? LOL!

I'm all for drilling wherever there are significant enough reserves to do justify doing so, without excessive environmental risk. For Florida, that means drilling in the Atlantic, and any candidate who wants to make a drilling in the Everglades part of their agenda will disappear faster than that lawn dart did...

90 posted on 08/30/2011 9:28:13 AM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: GladesGuru
I know Michigan has swamps, but they don't form the basis of the entire ecosystem up there. I imagine the Great Lakes do.

The real 'Glades Guru, of course, was Marjorie Stoneman Douglas. Her legacy and influence have probably rubbed off on a lot of us Floridians. Worse things could happen. There are simple better, more productive, less risky places to drill for oil off the Florida coast. If oil exploration and production ever happens in Florida on a large scale, the Atlantic ocean is the probable location.

But I say "Drill, baby, drill" wherever it makes the most sense. But the Everglades aren't the place where it makes the most sense, thankfully.

91 posted on 08/30/2011 9:42:49 AM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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