Posted on 08/22/2011 1:40:18 PM PDT by NYer
Thank you both...let’s see how the powers that be at our parish take to this news.
Thank you! Great post. I have been very vocal about this for some time. We need to let everyone know.
Another thing is, they want the credit for your charity, just like any liberal.
Bed with Liberals and get flees!
Susan G. Komen’s sister started this “charity” and has pimped out her sister’s name, memory and everything else she possibly could. It’s all about the money ($$$). When you really research this organization, it’s disgusting.
Isn’t it true that the grant money is for supplemental staffing not related to abortions and that Komen audits to ensure that the grant money doesn’t got to abortion operations?
I don’t have a dog in this fight but when I go to Komen’s site to check these allegations out for myself, there is a whole different portrayal.
My guess is that $700k pays for about 20 part time nurses and is a pittance in their budget.
Seems to be a major smear campaign and tossing the baby out with the bathwater.
And no doubt someone is going to call me “pro-abort” because I distrust the Groupthink, and that is what the pro-life nazis do when confronted.
Wouldn’t it be fair to provide links to the Komen site?
http://ww5.komen.org/Content.aspx?id=16162&terms=planned%20parenthood
http://ww5.komen.org/uploadedFiles/Content_Binaries/PlannedParenthoodLetter62011.pdf
http://ww5.komen.org/uploadedFiles/Content_Binaries/PlannedParenthoodLetter62011.pdf
I’d say fair and balanced but I think that phrase has already been taken.
At least people can decide to reject Komen’s side after reading it. What I’ve seen is misrepresentations of what Komen puts in writing.
Is Komen lying? I have no clue. Do you have evidence that they are?
I wouldn’t call you pro-abortion based on anything in your comment. I know a lot of pro-lifers, myself included and obviously many commenting on this thread, see every copper penny associated with Planned Parenthood as bloodied money. It’s nothing more than a human abattoir. There’s just no gray area here.
Give it time, give it time.
Did you read what Komen said about it or just read the attack literature?
You’re right - follow the money. That’s why a cure for cancer will NEVER be found. There is too much money to be made for **searching** for a cure. It is a never-ending vicious cycle.
If the Komen foundation were truly pro-life, they would not send one cent to Planned Parenthood. But why wouldn’t they support Planned Parenthood if they know, or suspect, that abortion plays a role in breast cancer? Komen is ensuring that they have a reason to keep “searching,” by helping PP continue to provide abortions. This is a monolithic money-making industry and women are the victims in every sense of the word. Truly a web of evil.
The Mr. Scrooge's of the "research" world would agree...great business...
Get rich while "decreasing the surplus population" at the same time.
Next to politics...it's the perfect caper.
The website will say what Koman wants it to say. Their 990, OTOH, says what’s really happening, where the $$$ comes from and where it goes. As a 501(c)(3) this is required by law and usually follows an independent audit. They’re pretty illuminating. In Koman’s case, there’s a lot of dirty laundry.
Being in non-profit and fund-raising, honestly, give to your church and local organizations, not chapters of nationals. Nationals are far more corporate than not and have HUGE overheads for the national organization, fundraising premiums, mailings, etc.
Isnt it true that the grant money is for supplemental staffing not related to abortions and that Komen audits to ensure that the grant money doesnt got to abortion operations?
An interesting suggestion, but it seems to me it has problems. Supplemental staffing is likely essential for PP to operate and money to pay for it would have to come from somewhere. If I give money to them and insist it only go to such specific services I am still freeing up other cash they have been given to fund abortions. Without my money they would still have had to pay nurses and so this would surely have lowered their working abortion budget. It is hard for me to believe that it is possible to give money to an organization and yet claim not to support the aims and actions of that organization.
You are the first I’ve encountered to suggest that there is evidence that Komen isn’t being honest and that’s fine.
I’m inferring that you’ve actually seen something.
Would you kindly share that info?
Some pro-lifers spin and propagandize in a manner than would make Stalin proud and want such purity that the anyone not ready to plant a bomb is mushy. Ok, mild exaggeration, but when you’ve got a group that resorts to the same disgusting tacts that PETA does by using horrendous depictions then not much is too much for them.
Did you read any of the Komen articles or just the anti-Komen information?
That doesn't make any sense at all. Komen states that their grants went to 19 clinics for non abortion services.
Do you really think that it is possible that those 19 clinics perform enough abortions to keep breast cancer going?
And that those abortions couldn't/wouldn't happen without Komen?
That is what you are asserting, isn't it?
My impression, based on what I read from Komen is that the grants pay for medical staffing for breast exams and screening that may lead to referrals for mammograms.
Again, my impression is that this grant pays for staff that would not otherwise be there and do not have anything to do with abortion services.
Are you against these clinics having this service?
Or is it Komen paying for these staffers?
And I’m still not seeing the down side if what Komen says is accurate.
If you have evidence that Komen is lying, then please share it.
Granting money to pay for staffing for breast exams is considered an endorsement of abortion? Really?
Did you read the Komen documents?
Granting money to pay for staffing for breast exams is considered an endorsement of abortion? Really?
Endorsement? Maybe not. But, it still enables Planned Parenthood to spend more money on abortions, and so indirectly still helps fund them.
Any money given to any organization, even if supposedly restricted to particular uncontroversial uses, inevitably frees up other less restricted funds. If Planned Parenthood didn't get a donation supporting their breast exam services they would have to use other money to pay for them. This means less money for the abortions than they otherwise had. Therefore, any money they get allows them to use more of the rest of their cash to kill babies. I can't really see anyway past that reality, regardless of how carefully the paper trails of specific dollar bills are monitored.
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