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Pink Ribbons Not Cute When Komen Backs Planned Parenthood
Life Site News ^ | August 22, 2011 | Abby Johnson

Posted on 08/22/2011 1:40:18 PM PDT by NYer

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To: buccaneer81; NYer

Thank you both...let’s see how the powers that be at our parish take to this news.


21 posted on 08/22/2011 3:14:32 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: NYer

Thank you! Great post. I have been very vocal about this for some time. We need to let everyone know.


22 posted on 08/22/2011 3:30:33 PM PDT by PDGearhead (Obama's lack of citizenship)
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To: randog

Another thing is, they want the credit for your charity, just like any liberal.


23 posted on 08/22/2011 3:49:56 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: NYer

Bed with Liberals and get flees!


24 posted on 08/22/2011 4:26:32 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: NYer

Susan G. Komen’s sister started this “charity” and has pimped out her sister’s name, memory and everything else she possibly could. It’s all about the money ($$$). When you really research this organization, it’s disgusting.


25 posted on 08/22/2011 4:31:00 PM PDT by khnyny (Our government has become Hal in "2001 A Space Odyssey")
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To: NYer

Isn’t it true that the grant money is for supplemental staffing not related to abortions and that Komen audits to ensure that the grant money doesn’t got to abortion operations?

I don’t have a dog in this fight but when I go to Komen’s site to check these allegations out for myself, there is a whole different portrayal.

My guess is that $700k pays for about 20 part time nurses and is a pittance in their budget.

Seems to be a major smear campaign and tossing the baby out with the bathwater.

And no doubt someone is going to call me “pro-abort” because I distrust the Groupthink, and that is what the pro-life nazis do when confronted.


26 posted on 08/22/2011 4:47:40 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit as well as a RINO. Who'd want to be a "real" Republican anyway?)
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To: NYer

Wouldn’t it be fair to provide links to the Komen site?

http://ww5.komen.org/Content.aspx?id=16162&terms=planned%20parenthood

http://ww5.komen.org/uploadedFiles/Content_Binaries/PlannedParenthoodLetter62011.pdf

http://ww5.komen.org/uploadedFiles/Content_Binaries/PlannedParenthoodLetter62011.pdf

I’d say fair and balanced but I think that phrase has already been taken.

At least people can decide to reject Komen’s side after reading it. What I’ve seen is misrepresentations of what Komen puts in writing.

Is Komen lying? I have no clue. Do you have evidence that they are?


27 posted on 08/22/2011 5:00:24 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit as well as a RINO. Who'd want to be a "real" Republican anyway?)
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To: Eagle Eye

I wouldn’t call you pro-abortion based on anything in your comment. I know a lot of pro-lifers, myself included and obviously many commenting on this thread, see every copper penny associated with Planned Parenthood as bloodied money. It’s nothing more than a human abattoir. There’s just no gray area here.


28 posted on 08/22/2011 5:05:24 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: grellis
I wouldn’t call you pro-abortion based on anything in your comment.

Give it time, give it time.

Did you read what Komen said about it or just read the attack literature?

29 posted on 08/22/2011 5:17:08 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit as well as a RINO. Who'd want to be a "real" Republican anyway?)
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To: Eagle Eye
I didn't read any of it--I truly do believe that every cent comingled with PP is blood money. I believe that their evil is so deep and so fundamental that it taints every aspect of their organization. I guess it would be like saying, "I hate Nazis but I support the work they do for war orphans." I have nothing to do with PP or with any association or organization that approves of any aspect of their "work" in any way.
30 posted on 08/23/2011 5:19:52 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: khnyny

You’re right - follow the money. That’s why a cure for cancer will NEVER be found. There is too much money to be made for **searching** for a cure. It is a never-ending vicious cycle.

If the Komen foundation were truly pro-life, they would not send one cent to Planned Parenthood. But why wouldn’t they support Planned Parenthood if they know, or suspect, that abortion plays a role in breast cancer? Komen is ensuring that they have a reason to keep “searching,” by helping PP continue to provide abortions. This is a monolithic money-making industry and women are the victims in every sense of the word. Truly a web of evil.


31 posted on 08/23/2011 8:09:52 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: nanetteclaret
That’s why a cure for cancer will NEVER be found. There is too much money to be made...

The Mr. Scrooge's of the "research" world would agree...great business...

Get rich while "decreasing the surplus population" at the same time.

Next to politics...it's the perfect caper.

32 posted on 08/23/2011 8:19:33 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!...P.S. Why did FR ZOT Frantzie?)
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To: Eagle Eye

The website will say what Koman wants it to say. Their 990, OTOH, says what’s really happening, where the $$$ comes from and where it goes. As a 501(c)(3) this is required by law and usually follows an independent audit. They’re pretty illuminating. In Koman’s case, there’s a lot of dirty laundry.

Being in non-profit and fund-raising, honestly, give to your church and local organizations, not chapters of nationals. Nationals are far more corporate than not and have HUGE overheads for the national organization, fundraising premiums, mailings, etc.


33 posted on 08/23/2011 10:22:36 AM PDT by Desdemona ( If trusting the men in the clergy was a requirement for Faith, there would be no one in the pews.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Isn’t it true that the grant money is for supplemental staffing not related to abortions and that Komen audits to ensure that the grant money doesn’t got to abortion operations?

An interesting suggestion, but it seems to me it has problems. Supplemental staffing is likely essential for PP to operate and money to pay for it would have to come from somewhere. If I give money to them and insist it only go to such specific services I am still freeing up other cash they have been given to fund abortions. Without my money they would still have had to pay nurses and so this would surely have lowered their working abortion budget. It is hard for me to believe that it is possible to give money to an organization and yet claim not to support the aims and actions of that organization.

34 posted on 08/23/2011 10:22:44 AM PDT by cothrige
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To: Desdemona

You are the first I’ve encountered to suggest that there is evidence that Komen isn’t being honest and that’s fine.

I’m inferring that you’ve actually seen something.

Would you kindly share that info?

Some pro-lifers spin and propagandize in a manner than would make Stalin proud and want such purity that the anyone not ready to plant a bomb is mushy. Ok, mild exaggeration, but when you’ve got a group that resorts to the same disgusting tacts that PETA does by using horrendous depictions then not much is too much for them.


35 posted on 08/23/2011 5:50:36 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit as well as a RINO. Who'd want to be a "real" Republican anyway?)
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To: cothrige

Did you read any of the Komen articles or just the anti-Komen information?


36 posted on 08/23/2011 5:52:12 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit as well as a RINO. Who'd want to be a "real" Republican anyway?)
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To: nanetteclaret
Komen is ensuring that they have a reason to keep “searching,” by helping PP continue to provide abortions. This is a monolithic money-making industry and women are the victims in every sense of the word. Truly aweb of evil.

That doesn't make any sense at all. Komen states that their grants went to 19 clinics for non abortion services.

Do you really think that it is possible that those 19 clinics perform enough abortions to keep breast cancer going?

And that those abortions couldn't/wouldn't happen without Komen?

That is what you are asserting, isn't it?

37 posted on 08/23/2011 5:56:31 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit as well as a RINO. Who'd want to be a "real" Republican anyway?)
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To: grellis

My impression, based on what I read from Komen is that the grants pay for medical staffing for breast exams and screening that may lead to referrals for mammograms.

Again, my impression is that this grant pays for staff that would not otherwise be there and do not have anything to do with abortion services.

Are you against these clinics having this service?

Or is it Komen paying for these staffers?

And I’m still not seeing the down side if what Komen says is accurate.

If you have evidence that Komen is lying, then please share it.


38 posted on 08/23/2011 6:06:23 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit as well as a RINO. Who'd want to be a "real" Republican anyway?)
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To: cothrige
It is hard for me to believe that it is possible to give money to an organization and yet claim not to support the aims and actions of that organization.

Granting money to pay for staffing for breast exams is considered an endorsement of abortion? Really?

Did you read the Komen documents?

39 posted on 08/23/2011 6:35:38 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit as well as a RINO. Who'd want to be a "real" Republican anyway?)
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To: Eagle Eye
Granting money to pay for staffing for breast exams is considered an endorsement of abortion? Really?

Endorsement? Maybe not. But, it still enables Planned Parenthood to spend more money on abortions, and so indirectly still helps fund them.

Any money given to any organization, even if supposedly restricted to particular uncontroversial uses, inevitably frees up other less restricted funds. If Planned Parenthood didn't get a donation supporting their breast exam services they would have to use other money to pay for them. This means less money for the abortions than they otherwise had. Therefore, any money they get allows them to use more of the rest of their cash to kill babies. I can't really see anyway past that reality, regardless of how carefully the paper trails of specific dollar bills are monitored.

40 posted on 08/23/2011 8:19:48 PM PDT by cothrige
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