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Pregnant woman mauled to death by family pit bull was in group arguing that the animals are safe
Daily Mail ^ | August 18

Posted on 08/17/2011 11:49:53 PM PDT by Borough Park

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To: Jonty30; MarineBrat

You need to realize that dogs aren’t “developed in the wild.” Dog breeds were developed by human beings who were seeking very particular traits.

Pit bulls are bred for their aggressiveness; Labrador Retrievers are not.

My last two dogs were male Rottweilers. Rottweilers are aggressive and territorial dogs by their nature and by their breeding. You don’t have to “train” a Rott to protect you or your home; you’d have a hard time training one NOT to.

My current dog is a female lab mix with another friendly dog breed. She is neither territorial nor agressive - again by breeding - and probably would not fight to protect her property or her family. She just didn’t have that bred into her.

I’ve never trusted pit bulls. I’ve known quite a few people who have had them, and one day they’re gone, and I hear some version of, “The dog was friendly, but it bit my mother,” or my kid, or the kid next door, or the mail man, or the dog next door.

I have a feeling that the woman being pregnant greatly contributed to the attack. Dogs are VERY aware of any change; and the woman probably had a change in odor as a result of being pregnant that threatened the dog. I’ve heard several times of someone getting cancer and the dog knowing even before the test - and becoming either scared or aggressive.

Of all the dogs that are TRULY “aggressive,” Pit Bulls ought to be at the top of the list. And anyone who doesn’t realize that is pretty stupid.

I love Rottweilers. But I love them for what they ARE, not because I live in denial.


41 posted on 08/18/2011 4:11:01 AM PDT by Michael Eden
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To: caver

Now I *really* wonder what happened.

Mr Napora is seeming more suspicious by the second.


42 posted on 08/18/2011 4:11:37 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: calex59
Bears are always hungry. They are driven by a degree of hunger that puts human hypoglycemia to shame.

Otherwise they are smart and loving ~

Oh, they are also very big, very strong, and very hungry. They are learning to use door knobs and latches.

Did I say they are always hungry? Well, they are. Do not be fooled.

43 posted on 08/18/2011 4:16:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jonty30

“They did it because you vacated your alpha position and they saw a need to fill it.”

My black lab did it to lean on the horn if I took too long. Yes, I had witnesses to the fact.


44 posted on 08/18/2011 4:18:26 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Salamander
Hmm ~ sometimes you gotta' knock 'em up side the haid anyway.

Little ankle biter chihuahuas are actually too stupid to deal with it and pitbulls don't care.

45 posted on 08/18/2011 4:18:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Salamander

Do you think the subjects of this article made a living selling crack or training fighting dogs?


46 posted on 08/18/2011 4:21:53 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Salamander

And further, the subject of my post was the hard-wiring that comes with the dog out of the chute. You immediately changed the subject to “can a dog be trained”. Can the hard-wiring be overcome? In most cases, sure. But the fact remains that it it there to begin with, and that is what caused the story here.


47 posted on 08/18/2011 4:24:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Michael Eden

You and I are in complete agreement. Unlike another on the thread.


48 posted on 08/18/2011 4:26:52 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Borough Park

The truth is people buy these dogs for protection, the statistic bare out the fact that the pit bull is far, far more likely to kill a family member than ever save a family member from a violent crime. Fools ...


49 posted on 08/18/2011 4:35:09 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Jonty30

Miss Daisy would argue just where the alpha position is located in an automobile...


50 posted on 08/18/2011 4:37:29 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: FreedomPoster

I have no idea but somehow, I seriously doubt they purchased the dog from a -reputable- breeder who ~didn’t~.


51 posted on 08/18/2011 4:42:18 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander

Yes, you have to wonder why a husband wouldn’t think more of his wife than bury her with the animal that killed her?


52 posted on 08/18/2011 4:43:54 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: muawiyah

I’m no longer surprised by your “expert replies”.

Thanks for making my point.


53 posted on 08/18/2011 4:43:54 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Justa

LOL


54 posted on 08/18/2011 4:44:50 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander

Did you know there are chihuahuas so stupid they can’t be toilet trained?


55 posted on 08/18/2011 4:56:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Borough Park

“Mr Napora, who still believes the dogs are not dangerous, has said he will bury his wife with the dead pet. “

That’s very interesting. I wouldn’t be surprized to learn that the husband was secretly training the dog to attack blonde women with dangling earings.


56 posted on 08/18/2011 4:57:26 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Had enough?)
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To: FreedomPoster

If you want to get technical, ALL dogs are hard wired to hunt and kill.

Feral packs of dogs can include Poodles to Pit Bulls and everything imaginable, in between.

We may have slightly, tenuously modified some of their behavior to suit our needs but at the day’s end, a Yorkie could survive quite well on its own, if it had to.

Any owner of any “nice, safe breed” deludes only themselves if they quietly romance that less than a wolf is laying at their feet.

As a dog person, rather than a “pet owner”, as an example, I never kid myself that my Ibizan Hounds “need” me in the least.

Turned loose in the mountains, they’d absolutely thrive as a fully functional, primitive pack.

I’m not sold on “hard wiring” [though it would more appropriately be “wet wiring”] because I’ve had Ibizans who had no interest in hunting yet were great guard dogs.

I’ve had Dobermanns who were lackadaisical about guarding but excelled at birding.

I had a German Shorthair who cared nothing for birding, preferring to constantly dig for imaginary ‘badgers’ or something.

My miniature Poodle thought she was a Malinois.

My dad’s insanely expensive “field champion hunting lines” Brittany wouldn’t point a bird to save his life.

All breeds have “inherent tendencies”.

Not all of them exhibit them.

If a breed is actually “hard wired”, *all* of them should exhibit the same traits.

Predisposition is not necessarily disposition.


57 posted on 08/18/2011 5:04:45 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Scythian

Cites and stats, please?


58 posted on 08/18/2011 5:05:43 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Borough Park

OMG!! Sicko people.


59 posted on 08/18/2011 5:06:28 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: caver

Or if he was burying evidence.


60 posted on 08/18/2011 5:06:57 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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