Posted on 08/16/2011 6:35:06 AM PDT by hocndoc
...and luckily for them the other children they'll meet have been. Hopefully, your gamble with their lives will work out well.
Well, let's look at that contention.
Per capita spending went from $2109 in 2000 to $3197 in 2010, an increase of 51.5%. But combined population and inflation in Texas increased 39% during that period, leaving a "real" increase in per capita spending of 12.5%, or an increase of 1.25% per year.
The per capita debt of the state of Texas went from $918 in 2000 to $1086 in 2010, an increase of 18.3%, When you take into consideration population and inflation, you have a decrease of 20.7%, or an annual decrease of 2.07%.
During the same period, the state GDP grew by 56.1%, so GDP grew faster than state spending.
By the way, state spending in Alaska was $8900 per capita in 2000, and was $13363 per capita in 2010 - more than 4 times the per capita spending by Texas. And the state debt for Alaska was $6614 per capita in 2000 and was $9333 per capita in 2010 - more than three times the per capita debt of Texas. Is that one of the conservative states you were thinking of?
A presentation by two female representatives.... ‘of the Council on American-Islamic Relations’... that students at the Friendswood Junior High School were forced to attend for two weeks.
“The specific details, as we were given by the students, included teachings that Adam, Noah, and Jesus were all prophets like Mohammed; the basic tenets of Islam; the process of how to pray five times a day; again, the pillars of Islam. These were specific, religious instructions,” .....This was Islamic teaching,”.....”That was the issue that, obviously, raised great concern. This was forced religious instruction and Islamic ... INDOCTRINATION.
Rick Perry's dangerous Muslim compromise http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=333701#ixzz1VDxeIVeB
If you go to the ICI site and investigate further will find their mission and vision tie in exactly with the Islamic push to dominate the US. The minaret represents A countries submission to Islam in the Islamic Political agenda. Also that they are importing Muslim children from Bosnia, Somalia etc. thru their refuge program and teaching them Islamic doctrine.
And that is the place Perry set the first brick in to build! Islamic Community Centers vision:
“To become the Minaret of Islam in the West”
That's becuase most haven't or refuse to see what his affiliation is about...and what the Islamic Center he put his thumbprint on actually does.....or about those classes he insisted be taught in the schools actually taught.
Imagine how most parents would react if "CAIR" instructors were being brought in to teach our children about Islam. Which is what happened.
Also in reading about the ICU activities...their refuge program brings muslim kids here from Bosnia, Somlia and other countries... teaching them of Islam rather than assimulating to America culture.
These Mosques and Islamic religious centers are the 'Rikers Island" for Muslims and Muslim wwanna-be's... coming into this country. Rather than allow Muslims to assimulate they are intercepting them to keep them on the Islamic track and agenda so that they do not become Americans but retain their nationality within our country. It is another means by importing them to increase their numbers in our country....all under the "mask" of community social services.
The principle objective of a vaccine is to “immunize”. If those who get the vaccine are immunized against the affects of a disease then only those who do not get the vaccine are affected and suffer the consequences. Your assertion that you or the government need to force the “collective good” on people less “sensible then you or I” is rather condescending and rather scary. That attitude in the past has led to some rather evil results. Personal responsibility demands that we allow people to fail or succeed. Allowing people to avoid personal responsibility is unkind and leads to the development of an attitude of dependence that demeans that individuals self worth.
>>preventing epidemics is a traditional, core governmental function<<
Would you please direct me to the part of the constitution or amendments that address your support for the “core governmental function” to force people to be vaccinated?
Crickets. Here and on the other thread as well. As G-d is my witness, doesn’t anybody care about this country anymore? That they would overlook this insane affiliation just so they can have what THEY think is some kind of victory? What kind of victory is it when you sell your soul to obtain it?
You're wrong about the "only unvaccinated people get sick" idea - as I noted in my previous post. You need to look into the phenomenon of "herd immunity". There's a critical mass point necessary for immunity to function for the whole population. Below that point, even those who are vaccinated can be infected. Although the course of the disease is usually less severe, it can still have negative consequences.
I had a recent bout with whooping cough, because the modern immunization throws that in with the tetanus - which is good for ten years - but immunity for the pertussis declines in around 4-5. I was approaching 10 years and it nailed me. I was never likely to die of it but I was a very unhappy camper for 6 weeks. My internist told me there is a "mini-epidemic" of pertussis among adults for this reason. So now it will be Tdap booster every 5 years or so, which is not a bad idea for me anyway since I spend so much time around horses and dogs.
Can’t find the other thread...but there are many out there now on Perry...FR is being slammed with them now he’s declared. And his supporters will continue to do so i imagine.
It’s very discouraging seeing so many blindly get on Perry’s bandwagon before they look further on what he’s really about. It’s no longer about who the best candidate is...it’s about defeating Obama only...and just like in Egypt they thought they’d be getting a better deal...and now the Muslim Brotherhood is taking over.
Excellant post CB....
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Perry began with a somewhat bloated state government, courtesy of George Bush and his D mentor, Bob Bullock. So: 1. we should have had some real cuts at the beginning of Perry’s first term and 2. there is no reason why spending needs to track population growth and inflation.
Because you ignored the second point, which I made previously, consider Texas DMV. In 2001 maintaining “current services” could have been accomplished by expanding the ranks of DMV drones and giving them colas. Alternatively, license renewal and other functions could have been put on line, thereby providing better service than the 2001 “current services” and at a small fraction of the cost of the old DMV “service” model. In recent years DMV has migrated to the net.
There are many other areas in which genuine government services (there aren’t many) could have been maintained or improved while cutting costs, not to mention eliminating entire departments and commissions. Even more important, however, was controlling the border and getting rid of illegals, who are bankrupting hopspitals and causing welfare expenditures to soar. Perry has been very bad on immigration and has not been willing to fight to shrink the bloated government that Austin has created. The reason? Spending has constituencies, and Perry hasn’t been willing to fight.
Texas has too much debt, but that really isn’t Perry’s fault, although I don’t remember Perry ever campaigning against bonds.
In any event, any way you look at it, Perry’s spending record is not strongly conservative.
I don’t care about Alaska - I am not holding up Palin as perfect candidate. In fact, I might prefer Perry to Palin, if she ever decides to get in the race.
Perry is no Arnold”
Here we agree. Perry is far more conservative.
I’ll trust my instincts on this since I can’t trust the eugenicists.
Your reasons to #4 are garbage. Perry introduced the Trans-Texas Corridor and thank God the legislature did stop it. Your excuse is that the legislature stopped it but you giving Perry credit is BS. He was well on his way to taking land from all kinds of people with his pro-Mexican corridor straight through the heart of Texas.
Texas SB 18 DID NOT protect people from eminent domain. Eminent domain became the center focus of Perry’s Trans-Texas Corridor and Texans pushes to get a bill that would protect them from his land grabs, taking private lands for private gain. Instead, he pushed SB18, which was a weak bill that gave loopholes to lobbyists to take private lands for private gain.
Perry has proven what a Democrat he really is! Vote NO(!) to Democrat RINOs! Perry was a liberal Democrat until he was about 40 years old when he switched to the Republican party so he could get elected in Texas. That leopard hasn’t changed his spots!
Your #14: “Gardasil is a good vaccine.”
You support mandatory injections and support Perry’s doing so? God help us if that idiot becomes President! I hope you are never near any level of power within any government. What the Hell gives you the right to demand people take medicines by force??? I suppose you support Obama’s DeathCare and the mandatory insurance clause...because it’s a “good” thing??? Screw you! This is a FREE COUNTRY! No government has the right to demand such things just because some twit thinks it is a “good vaccine”.
Did you not even bother reading the figures I gave you? Texas has the 2nd lowest state debt to GDP ratio and the 2nd lowest state debt per capita in the nation, and it went down from 8th lowest and 7th lowest in 2000, respectively, during the Perry administration.
In any event, any way you look at it, Perry’s spending record is not strongly conservative.
Okay, name another state or governor that you do consider to have a strongly conservative spending record. I'd like to take a look at that. Because if 4th lowest in spending and 2nd lowest in debt is not a conservative enough record, I'd like to see what is.
If everyone is a drunk, but Ralph only gets blotto once a week while others are drunk most or all of the time, am I supposed to think that Ralph is a responsible drinker because others are drunk more often?
Alternatively, if I were to chose the least socialistic EU country, would that entitle me to claim that that country is fiscally “conservative”?
This applies to both your comments.
If you knew more about Texas you would stop waving the pom poms for Perry. BTW, do you know how our budget was balanced this year? With the same kind of smoke and mirrors accounting dodges that CA uses. We just haven’t done it as often as CA. You can contraqst that with Mitch Daniels’ fiscal record, which is better than Perry’s. (Nevertheless, I wouldn’t support Daniels if he were a candidate because I don’t think he can be trusted on “social” issues, which is one of Perry’s strengths)
Yes, instincts being so reliable... LOL. I mean, really... what has a thousand years of medical science ever done for us? [/sarc]
A lot of good and a lot of bad.
“The laying of taxes is the power, and the general welfare the purpose for which the power is to be exercised. They [Congress] are not to lay taxes ad libitum for any purpose they please; but only to pay the debts or provide for the welfare of the Union. In like manner, they are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay taxes for that purpose.” Thomas Jefferson
Chief Justice John Marshall described the limits of the Welfare Clause in Gibbons v. Ogden in 1824. "Congress is authorized to lay and collect taxes, &c. to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States. ... Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."
Continued abbuse of the General Welfare clause could well end up with Obamacare. If you think those abuses of the clause are justified our Republic is truly at the close of it’s “great experiment”.
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