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Slain Pa. officer had pointed stun gun at 2 dogs
Associated Press ^ | August 12, 2011

Posted on 08/12/2011 12:20:01 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: muawiyah
That's a valid worst case scenario. Mine’s a valid best case scenario. (or vice versa)

Now, considering the number of times I've read about police killing harmless (and restrained) dogs of late, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt on the dogs to the owner, not the police.

221 posted on 08/13/2011 1:17:28 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: trapped_in_LA

Exactly. Well said.


222 posted on 08/13/2011 1:26:07 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: trapped_in_LA

Very true.


223 posted on 08/13/2011 3:52:22 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: muawiyah
Do you imagine that someone who accidentally ends up on something you think is your property is deserving of a death penalty?

What, you mean like Yoshihiro Hattori, who was shot trespassing on someone's property?

Funny thing is, the shooter was not charged with murder. You should look it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori

224 posted on 08/13/2011 5:18:39 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Castlebar
Please Google this:

Police officer attacked by dog

A dog attack doesn't have to be fatal to be a terrible event for the victim.

225 posted on 08/13/2011 7:44:03 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: gogogodzilla
Everybody knows the story. His mentally deranged woman talked him into shooting a child knocking on their door.

Yeah ~ we all know that. And if the child had been a white English speaking kid he probably wouldn't have been shot.

Louisiana law did make it OK to murder people just for the hell of it.

There've been some changes since then, but FUR SHUR even you wouldn't want them next door ~ imagine if your power was out, your house was starting to burn and you needed to go NEXT DOOR for help summoning the fire department.

Then the crazy woman says to hubby "Hey, there's those trouble makers again, go kill them"!

226 posted on 08/13/2011 7:58:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: gogogodzilla

Does your wife, or your daughter, know that you would be more concerned for the dog?


227 posted on 08/13/2011 8:00:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dcwusmc

Big government? You can’t get more local than this ~ it’s a town policeman!


228 posted on 08/13/2011 8:01:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JRandomFreeper
Here's your problem ~ most all warrants are quite peacefully delivered. A few dumba%%e% shoot the guy with the warrant just to show they can, but not many.

On the other hand we have the internet to entertain us with the exceptions ~ particularly when a cop responds to a call for help.

No, cops don't have to get warrants to respond to a call for help, and as we all know our primary reason to keep our guns loaded and at the ready is WHEN SECONDS COUNT THE COPS ARE 90 MINUTES AWAY (as in Norway recently).

So, if you want the cops to get a warrant every time they respond to a call for help you will have a lot of people die ~ probably even you!

229 posted on 08/13/2011 8:05:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I suppose you’re going to claim you’ve never heard of Quartzite, Arizona? Small town but HUGE tyranny. Check it out before you pop off about small towns again. On the other hand, it might just be YOUR kinda place!


230 posted on 08/13/2011 3:00:14 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: dcwusmc

Everybody has heard about quartzite. Still doesn’t make it a big city or “non local” ~


231 posted on 08/13/2011 3:13:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Who’s been talking about big cities? Besides you, I mean? And it were YOU who started talking about such things, accusing me of not thinking the Constitution should apply because this place where the cop was killed was not a big city...


232 posted on 08/13/2011 6:20:32 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: muawiyah

Who’s been talking about big cities? Besides you, I mean? And it were YOU who started talking about such things, accusing me of not thinking the Constitution should apply because this place where the cop was killed was not a big city... the Constitution applies EVERYWHERE IN THESE UNITED STATES, no exceptions.


233 posted on 08/13/2011 6:23:11 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: dcwusmc

Somebody said “big government” ~ all I did was remind you (and others) that this is pretty small potatoes ~ a local township in fact ~ not “big government” at all ~ unless you have a different sort of definition of “big government” than everybody else.


234 posted on 08/13/2011 6:32:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Leaning Right
I tried,

"police officer mauled by dog"

and I got numerous accounts of the same story, "retired police officer mauled by dog he had rescued..." - happened in Minesota in 2009.

For "police officer injured by dog" I got a total of five hits, of which only two referred to actual incidents.

1 - Pittsburgh, March 2011, officers dispatched to scene in response to reports of loose dog:

<"Officials say the female officer was scratched by the pit bull at the scene. She was taken to a local hospital for treatment of her injury"

2 - Charles County, Md, 2010, officers in response to assault call, attacked by a pit bull that the perp had set loose on them. Dog "tried to bite" one cop on the ankle. Cop shot dog.

The idea that cops need to shoot the myriad dogs that they are shooting, for fear of their safety, is a view held only by extremely ignorant people.

235 posted on 08/13/2011 6:52:36 PM PDT by Castlebar
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To: muawiyah

Big government- your apparent favorite flavor- can exist ANYWHERE that good people allow it by their negligence. Doesn’t matter the size of the area or the population.


236 posted on 08/13/2011 7:35:09 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: Castlebar
Well, I certainly got dozens of hits when I googled “police officer attacked by dog”.

I'm not surprised that you got only few hits when you tried “police officer mauled by dog” or police officer injured by dog.” It's probably a rare event.

And here's why. An armed person, cop or not, is simply not going to let himself be mauled or injured by a dog. He is going to shoot the dog and so avoid the injury.

I am not arguing that a cop should simply shoot every dog he encounters. What I am saying is that I put a human being's safety before that of an animal. It's a judgment call, one that a cop should have to defend in court if need be.

And I do find it ironic that I must defend this position. I like dogs, particularly Golden Retrievers.

And I do not particularly like cops. I have had a couple of bad experiences with them. But that's another story.

237 posted on 08/13/2011 7:40:43 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Eternal rest Officer Robert Lasso.Prayers for his family.


238 posted on 08/13/2011 7:54:24 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today:))
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To: dcwusmc

Don’t be silly. One police chief dealing with a dangerous nut case is NOT BIG GOVERNMENT.


239 posted on 08/13/2011 7:57:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

If said police chief thinks, reasonably for the area, that he can ignore the Constitution with impunity, it’s because government is WAY, WAY too big and overweening, period. I can’t say with certainty that he DID think that way, but given what I have been able to read about this case, I’m not betting AGAINST it. Whatever else you can say, that’s big government.


240 posted on 08/13/2011 9:10:07 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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