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Having a satellite dish 'is a human right,' says EU
Daily Mail ^ | 8/7/11

Posted on 08/07/2011 6:35:55 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: oldbrowser

I had a client that was poed about not having a computer since she had a Master’s degree. I said there wasn’t a right to that stuff and she could go to the library like everybody else.


21 posted on 08/07/2011 7:20:47 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: markomalley

Cadging it as a human right is a bit out outre’. That said, it would be like outlawing gas-powered vehicles in the parking lot - a standard commodity is a standard commodity and refusing to allow it should be squashed. I have been researching gun carry laws in Mississippi - it seems that anything that fully or partially conceals the weapon relegates it to the “concealed” weapon status and require a concealed carry permit - holsters are considered to be “concealment”. I’ll talk with some friends in law enforcement to see if that means I can carry it in my hand or if my hand would be deemed to be partially concealing it too.


22 posted on 08/07/2011 7:22:31 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: markomalley

Is this part of their 6-foot thick “constitution”?


23 posted on 08/07/2011 7:31:38 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Tea Party: La Resistance! America's best hope! America's ONLY hope!)
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To: yldstrk; markomalley
I now live at the Armed Forces Retirement Home in Gulfport (MS). They forbid attachments to the building. BUT, there are devices made to accommodate me and my brethren. Congress did indeed guarantee the right to have a dish and the local Cable One service stinks.

The "sled mount" (otherwise know as a "Non-penetrating patio mount") is on my balcony and can be removed for a hurricane (a la Katrina). Ultimately, we hope to have a central system to serve all residents who want to subscribe. Cable One is fighting us hard!!!


24 posted on 08/07/2011 7:33:35 AM PDT by WVKayaker (The GOP needs to live the planks of its platform, not just offer lip service. -Sarah Palin 8/2008)
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To: yldstrk; Lonesome in Massachussets
And so did the cable company serving a given locale.

Can you say monopoly?

Business and aesthetic issues aside, years ago, the WSJ had an
article on ways Iranian citizens were disguising the big 6'
dishes(S-band?) at the time when the Ayatollah Khomani was
running things there.

Heck, even just a few years ago, similar stuff was going on in
Canada. Their precious CBC didn't liked the competition
from FNC, let alone the sat dish company losing business
from all the immigrants wanting channels from the "home
country", creating a bootleg satellite service market.

25 posted on 08/07/2011 7:36:27 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: eastforker

unintended consequences. Once something is names a human right, the next step is to declare it must be publicly funded. If landlords are preventing use of satellites on their own property (a very common practice here in the US, too), there are methods to prevent these bans other than stating it is a human right. Without exception, the establishment of this human right is always a step in entering it into public policy for lower incomes.


26 posted on 08/07/2011 7:44:28 AM PDT by ilgipper (political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: yldstrk

>> Ok, well if you must have a dish, either become a property
>> owner and install one or move where you can have one.

This article is about Europe and applies to urban dwellers in Europe, for most of whom the options are not available. They live and work in the cities. This is how their life is centered.


27 posted on 08/07/2011 7:48:35 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: yldstrk

As I mentioned earlier, there are many inovative ways to install a dish without attatching it to a building.


28 posted on 08/07/2011 7:50:32 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: yldstrk

>> Ok, well if you must have a dish, either become a property
>> owner and install one or move where you can have one.

This article is about Europe and applies to urban dwellers in Europe, for most of whom the options are not available. They live and work in the cities. This is how their life is centered.


29 posted on 08/07/2011 7:50:47 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: triumphant values

You are right. The news and entertainment industries — including sports — are party organs.


30 posted on 08/07/2011 7:52:39 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: longjack
Even if it is necessary to have a satellite dish to receive televison, that does not make having television a human right. The right to property is a fundamental human right (see the US Declaration of Independence) and telling a landlord that they must do something that harms their building or its value interferes with their right to property.

If the tenants can't get TV reception, let them find another place to live. If the landlord can't get tenants (or at least quality tenants), they will either lose money or allow a satellite dish.

As with most things mandated by government, the free marketplace will take care of the situation.

31 posted on 08/07/2011 7:53:58 AM PDT by BruceS
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To: markomalley

Just wow! There are thousands of condominium complexes where dishes are banned. Though some allow them. A private landlord has to allow his property to be disfigured and mutilated in the EU?

I have nothing against satellite TV dishes but if you are renting this is at the landlord’s discretion


32 posted on 08/07/2011 7:56:36 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT -- works better if you're already smart)
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To: sten

a right to own one, i would agree

a right to have one given to you, oh please


Again, we agree.

I’d call it a first amendment right here in the US to be able to receive communications.

My state makes it illegal for private property owners to restrict their own property to ban these dishes (Homeowners Associations). Rightly so.


33 posted on 08/07/2011 8:04:04 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: yldstrk

Lemme guess, a “humanities” major?


34 posted on 08/07/2011 8:10:22 AM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (Counting down the days until Obama resigns.)
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To: markomalley

“the right to freedom of information”

Does anyone have to provide your megaphone, or your means to listen, with their funds, their property?

Does your “right” extend to what is essentially an unrestricted taking of others’ property.

Such an extension obliterates any distinction between public property and private property, converting private property into de-facto public property.

If there is such a “right” it can only be taken that GOVERNMENT cannot actively suppress such a right.

As individuals and as regards our own property, we are subject to what we can contract for with each other.


35 posted on 08/07/2011 1:24:00 PM PDT by Wuli
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