Posted on 08/04/2011 6:05:41 PM PDT by El Sordo
Nonsense. There's no way Lakin would have disobeyed orders had Obama released his alleged long-form in 2008.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the reality is that NEITHER of the alleged birth certificates have ever been used for ANY legal purpose. Both jpgs lack proper certification elements.
It’s from that whole boring Constitution thing birthers hate so much, “Full Faith and Credit”.
The "Full Faith and Credit" thing requires a way to verify the authenticity of any particular legal record. Neither of Obama's two alleged birth certificates have been LEGALLY verified.
Lakin knew full well his actions had no basis in fact, he stated so in his allocution during his court-martial. That would be where he pled GUILTY.
Lakin was abandoned on issue that could have been easily resolved by Obama presenting the document faithers claimed the state of Hawaii didn't have or couldn't release. Lakin didn't have a choice in the matter and he was advised by counsel to respond in the manner he did in the court-martial transcript. His own brother acknowledged there were still doubts about Obama's first alleged COLB. Don't kid yourself. The stuff about Lakin's "replacement" is melodrama. Again, Obama could have averted this situation and had plenty of opportunity to do so, but blew it. It was because of Obama's Afghanistan policy that Lakin was even being deployed this time around anyway.
I don't think the release of a long-form certificate in 2008 would have had much of an impact on the conspiracy theorists Lakin was getting his bad information from.
Lakin disobeyed orders in order to try to get a long-form released. What exactly would he have wanted and why do you think he would have disobeyed orders to try to get it had a long form been released in 2008???
Probably the same thing birthers are asking for now that Obama released his long-form birth certificate: the real birth certificate. It never ends when you're dealing with conspiracy theorists.
Again, this is nonsense. There's no way Lakin would have disobeyed orders had Obama immediately release his alleged long form. One of the big reasons skeptics doubt the long form now is because it took so long to produce. Obama had plenty of time to have something fabricated. An immediate release wouldn't have looked suspicious.
Again, this is nonsense. There's no way Lakin would have disobeyed orders had Obama immediately release his alleged long form. One of the big reasons skeptics doubt the long form now is because it took so long to produce. Obama had plenty of time to have something fabricated. An immediate release wouldn't have looked suspicious.
Then in your next post you follow up with: “Both jpgs lack proper certification elements.”
So Lakin would have accepted it even though it's invalid?
That's what his defense fund site says:
This document which was so casually dropped on the news corps could just have easily been provided twelve months ago or two years ago. Even six months ago, it would have prevented LTC Lakin being manacled and hauled away to Fort Leavenworth prison for standing up for the Constitution, consistent with the oath he took as an officer, and the rule of law.
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Not a chance. He still refused to deploy.
Especially since the long form contains exactly the same information.
And Jerome Corsi said on the WorldNetDaily DVD that Obama could end all the Birther questions “tomorrow” if he simply released his long-form.
Is Lakin just more honest than Corsi?
What "Birther falsehoods"??? Be specific.
Lakin put his career at risk because there were several problems with Obama's 2008 jpg. Had Obama released a plausible long form in 2008, the problems would have been mostly addressed and Lakin would have little to no motivation to risk his career.
There's no "still refused to deploy" since Obama didn't release the long form before Lakin made that decision.
In one of Lakins early statements, that's what he focuses on (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea9JVnck_-E&feature=player_embedded ). But that was the strategy at the time because Birhter’s beleived that the long form just had to be different. It just had to be! So Lakin tried a Hail Mary to get it released.
And just for fun, Lakin was pretty clear in this YouTube video that he was concerned about Obama having been born on US soil. This “two parent citizen” meme didn't happen until it Birther ran out of steam with their “Born in Kenya” meme.
http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/the-hard-facts.html
Though it isn't fair to claim that Lakin believes everything that site chooses to say.
I have nothing further to add.
Me too.
14 comments since you registered in Aug 2010, no comments at all until March 2011.
Odd. All about 0bomba’s eligibility except one about Peoria’s racial violence but you’re claiming it wasn’t.
Very very odd. I wonder if you have another FR name?
And a long form bc would have had to be shown as evidence in court as an actual paper document, which has never happened and will never happen.
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