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Republicans Win When the Fight Is Over Cuts Not More Taxes
Townhall.com ^ | August 1, 2011 | Michael Barone

Posted on 08/01/2011 4:36:59 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Yeah, we really need to win the battle of the language first before we can really make a dent. The next argument needs to be framed this way. Why we don’t do this is a real head scratcher to me.


41 posted on 08/01/2011 6:44:00 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: esoxmagnum
The deal should not have been “come to an agreement or we are going to cut medicare and the military”

Medicare bennies are excluded from the automatic cuts.

42 posted on 08/01/2011 6:45:08 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Daveinyork

“If the Senate doesn’t pass it, the the resulting shyutdown is on their head. “

We’ve been there, done that. Republicans got blamed for the the Government Shutdown of 1995. The reaction was so bad that conservatism was nearly wiped out of the Republican Party. That’s why we had the Decade of the RINO’s, Bush / McCain in the 2000’s. Conservatism was dead from then until the Tea Party.


43 posted on 08/01/2011 6:54:23 AM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: rodguy911
Does anyone here know whether or not the Bush tax cuts continue or not?
No, they are current law and set to expire end of 2012. This actually works to our advantage, in a strange way. The CBO will score any attempt by dems to raise taxes on this commission against the backdrop of current law, so they will net nothing in any proposal to raise taxes because CBO already has that factored in. So, the focus is on the automatic reductions in the rate of growth that might get implemented should the commission not come up with 2.4T in reductions in the automatic rate of growth. Is the sword equally hovering over the dems with regard to the automatic reductions in the rate of growth triggers so that they are equally motivated to reduce the rate of growth? That is the question of the day.
44 posted on 08/01/2011 6:58:11 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: tanknetter
" can’t it be expressed without resorting to the desecration of one of the better burger joints"

Gotta disagree with you here: Five Guys is not on my list of places I want to eat ... every time I've been, their fries have been burned (and what is the seasoning?), and the burgers have been very low-quality meat and very greasy :(

45 posted on 08/01/2011 7:06:43 AM PDT by wizzardude
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To: Publius Valerius

that is not what is being reported


46 posted on 08/01/2011 7:13:29 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

The thing that works to our advantage with middle class tax cuts expiring is that a big chunk of the voting population will have to pay for what they created. I have always believed the “moral hazard” argument that if you cut middle class taxes and leave taxes on the rich high, you give people an incentive to increase spending on the backs of the rich. This is why a flat tax is so valuable. Everyone pays so everyone has to think about how much spending is appropriate. Our current tax system is way too progressive.


47 posted on 08/01/2011 7:14:35 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Siegfried X

The only reason we lost that one is that the GOP cared more about what the press said about them than what their base thought of them.


48 posted on 08/01/2011 8:02:06 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Everyone pays so everyone has to think about how much spending is appropriate. Our current tax system is way too progressive.
Agreed. The Bush tax cuts made it where people making under 60K a year with a family of any size is paying much of anything. I am always for reducing taxes, but we cannot reduce it so that less people are paying anything at all. Everyone should pay something and it should be the same percent on the next dollar earned as everyone else. Make a generous deduction to make it implicitly progressive for the poor and lower class but make the rate system flat and not progressive. On the same page here.
49 posted on 08/01/2011 8:02:59 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Only in Washington, DC would a reduction in spending percentage of the budget be seen as a “cut”. Bravo Sierra.

If you spend 5% more than you did the year before, instead of 10%, Washington says it’s a 5% cut. Actually, it’s a 5% INCREASE and you’re doing it with borrowed money!


50 posted on 08/01/2011 8:38:14 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: wizzardude
Gotta disagree with you here: Five Guys is not on my list of places I want to eat ... every time I've been, their fries have been burned (and what is the seasoning?), and the burgers have been very low-quality meat and very greasy :(

You should let their corporate offices know. Especially if you're going to the same restaurant.

Living in DC, Five Guys is a local burger joint to me, and I've been going to them since I was introduced to the original one (Glebe and Columbia Pike in Arlington VA - I bought my Jeep at Rosenthal on the opposite corner) in the early 1990s.

They take their quality control VERY seriously - loss of control over quality was one of their big concerns about franchising and they have a number of programs (both input and output in nature) in place to ensure consistency of quality in their food.

In all my years of being a customer, I've never experienced their food as you describe. Except for the greasiness of the burgers ... which I really enjoy and think is one of the reasons they taste so good.
51 posted on 08/01/2011 4:07:50 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter
"Gotta disagree with you here: Five Guys is not on my list of places I want to eat ... every time I've been, their fries have been burned (and what is the seasoning?), and the burgers have been very low-quality meat and very greasy :(
You should let their corporate offices know. Especially if you're going to the same restaurant.
Living in DC, Five Guys is a local burger joint to me, and I've been going to them since I was introduced to the original one (Glebe and Columbia Pike in Arlington VA - I bought my Jeep at Rosenthal on the opposite corner) in the early 1990s.
They take their quality control VERY seriously - loss of control over quality was one of their big concerns about franchising and they have a number of programs (both input and output in nature) in place to ensure consistency of quality in their food.
In all my years of being a customer, I've never experienced their food as you describe. Except for the greasiness of the burgers ... which I really enjoy and think is one of the reasons they taste so good."

I'm happy for you :)

No, really - I am. But everyone I've been to (Albany NY, Durham NC, Charlotte NC) has been pretty bad :(

Maybe they won't be so bad in KY where I live now ... but with other places around that I already know I like, why go back? Anyways - enjoy :)

52 posted on 08/09/2011 12:53:19 PM PDT by wizzardude
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