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The McConnell Plan's Pitfalls (Doesn't guarantee real cuts; GOP will be blamed for any defaults)
Weekly Standard ^ | JUL 13, 2011 | STEPHEN F. HAYES

Posted on 07/13/2011 9:00:08 AM PDT by Qbert

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1 posted on 07/13/2011 9:00:15 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Giving up is not a plan.


2 posted on 07/13/2011 9:04:53 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Qbert

The McConnell plan would be the absolute worst possible outcome for us and America.


3 posted on 07/13/2011 9:05:33 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: DManA

McConnell needs to retire so we can get a real Conservative Republican in his place.


4 posted on 07/13/2011 9:06:07 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Qbert

"Never send a monkey or RINO to do a man's job."
~ Captain Leo Davidson

5 posted on 07/13/2011 9:06:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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The Republicans would be wise to just do what’s right for the country.

Pravda will blame the Republicans for everything from economic ills to the onset of parvo in puppies.

If the Republicans decide to attempt to appease Pravda, the base will splinter and the Tea Party will become a real 3rd party, (2nd party after the demise of the GOP).


6 posted on 07/13/2011 9:07:43 AM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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what a jackass.

Someone must have pictures of mitch w/ a goat.

7 posted on 07/13/2011 9:08:01 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: DManA

Secession is looking more and more attractive.

I’ll be damned if some a$$clown from Kentucky is to enslave this native Virginian and his descendants to the government just so the Washington Post won’t say bad things about him.


8 posted on 07/13/2011 9:09:40 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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By next year, the results of this will be forgotten by most people. Next election, folks’ attention will be on something else.

So as long as it’s “resolved” by next year, repubs will be ok.

Look at just a few months ago - remember that continuing resolution to keep gov’t open when a shutdown was threatened? They didn’t shut it down, but the “cuts” they got were about 2 billion, not the orignially intended 60 billion.

Anyone complaining about that now?


9 posted on 07/13/2011 9:14:43 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: All; Qbert
The Laura Ingraham Show - Mitch McConnell defends plan to bargain with Obama (10 min audio on youtube with transcript)

@1:05 - "There is a good deal of conservative support for what I laid out yesterday beginning with the Wall Street Journal editorial page today."

@1:44 - "Doing the right thing for the country is our first obligation, but we cannot force a result, we need to do the next best thing and that's clarify the differences between the two parties."

@2:14 - "They want to blame the economy on us and the reason default is no better an idea today than it was when Newt Gingrich tried it in 1995, is it destroys your brand, and it gives the president an opportunity to blame Republicans for a bad economy."

@3:03 - Laura: "While it puts the burden, it shifts the burden to the greatest extent to Obama, in effect there is kind of a vote at the beginning to raise the debt ceiling because you are ceding..." McConnell: "No, no. It only authorizes the president to ask for it. There will be no vote to raise the debt ceiling I suspect by any Republican."

Laura: "Isn't that passing the buck, Senator? Isn't that passing the buck of leadership to the White House?"

McConnell: "We've been trying to get this liberal president to sign a deal worth signing. You know it makes a difference when you only control a third of the government. If we were able to run the government out of the House of Representatives we would be able to get a result that we would like."

@4:40 - Laura: "When I see the New York Times on the other hand, praising the deal, Harry Reid seeming to be open to it, and even the White House murmers that it might be something acceptable I get a little nervous, why do you think they are embracing it?"

McConnell: "Because they want to raise the debt ceiling and of course we know that is going to happen. Just like we knew shutting down the government in 1995 was not going to work for us, it helped Bill Clinton get reelected. I refuse to help Barack Obama get reelected."

@5:34 - "If we go into default he [Obama] will say that Republicans are making the economy worse and try to convince the public, maybe with some merit, if people start not getting their Social Security checks, military families start not getting letters saying that service people overseas don't get paid, you know that's an argument he would have a good chance of winning and all of a sudden we are co-ownership, we have co-ownership of a bad economy. That is very bad positioning going into election."

@8:34 - "We had hoped this would present an opportunity to cut spending. It looks as if, it may change, but it looks as if it is only going to be an opportunity for him to try to entice us top raising taxes and as I said when I started I'm not going to be a part of turning the Republicans into tax collectors for the welfare state."

10 posted on 07/13/2011 9:14:59 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: brownsfan

“Pravda will blame the Republicans for everything from economic ills to the onset of parvo in puppies.”

They always have, and they always will.


11 posted on 07/13/2011 9:15:02 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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This proves what putz McConnell is. When RINO of RINO’s Orrin Hatch says he can’t support this idiotic plan, McConnell has to know he’s in trouble. I realize Hatch fears a primary challenge, but that aside, it has to make you wonder what McConnell thought this was going to resolve? Who was it did he think would get on board with this nonsense, which looks on the face of it as borderline unconstitutional. So who did McConnell think his audience was? Did he honestly think guys in the Senate like Rubio, Paul, Toomey, Johnson, DeMint, Lee would say “Oh Goodee!!”?? Which makes the point even more clear: McConnell as leader has got to go. When Republicans take over the Senate in 2012, the Conservatives have to mount a leadership challenge to McConnell.


12 posted on 07/13/2011 9:15:23 AM PDT by antonico
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Far worse, in my view, is that the plan isolates House Republicans, it undercuts their (tentative) plan to offer an aggressive debt limit proposal of their own

Tea Party went RINO hunting in 2010, and this is the RINO's payback.

13 posted on 07/13/2011 9:16:33 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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I am here to save my dear President's political career.

I propose that Congress give up their Constitutional authority and
give President Obama unprecedented power to raise the debt ceiling
by $2.4 trillion in three installments through the end of his term!


14 posted on 07/13/2011 9:17:36 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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That fact means the McConnell plan will be nearly impossible to get through the House of Representatives. “There is zero chances it’ll pass the House,” said one House leadership aide. “Zero. I’m not sure it would get any votes from our side.”

Is he talking about whenever Obama comes in with a debt ceiling hike and it's voted on, or does he mean House approval of McConnell's plan overall? And if the latter, would they not be voting on it rather soon?

15 posted on 07/13/2011 9:17:36 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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The Bitch McConnell plan:

Screw Conservatives, screw America, screw producers, screw the responsible, save all Rats, RINOs, Marxists, Communists, non producers, degenerates, and perverts, and blame Republicans for everything that goes wrong, which will be everything.

A brilliant RINO plan to reelect Zer0.

16 posted on 07/13/2011 9:18:10 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: fruser1

“By next year, the results of this will be forgotten by most people. Next election, folks’ attention will be on something else”

All the more reason then to do the right thing now.


17 posted on 07/13/2011 9:18:55 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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Kcuf McConell. The Senate Republicans are irrelevent. The action is in the House. Time for Boenher and the boys to lay down the marker. $2 trillion in cuts and no tax increases. Take it or leave it. Oh, and by the way Mr. President, if you violate the 14th amendment by not honoring the debts of the United States, articles of impeachment will be served immediately. Have a nice day Jug Ears.


18 posted on 07/13/2011 9:24:05 AM PDT by technically right
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“All the more reason then to do the right thing now.”

Yes, that was my intended point. Thanks for bringing that up explicitly. I should’ve had it or something in my original reply.


19 posted on 07/13/2011 9:24:15 AM PDT by fruser1
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You can just see it running through all of his comments: he’s still terrified of 1995 and what “they will say”...

How about you follow the lead of the new Conservative (Palin, Rubio, etc.) and open up your mouth, Mitch and defend yourself instead of ducking under the table every time the Dems demagogue?


20 posted on 07/13/2011 9:25:40 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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