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Ingratitude. South Korea is the Most Ungrateful Country in the World.
National Review ^ | 07/12/2011 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 07/12/2011 6:56:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

I thought that was Pakistan?


21 posted on 07/12/2011 7:18:15 AM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

I’m pretty sure they spend a fortune on defense because they sell some of it.


22 posted on 07/12/2011 7:19:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Williams
Should we abandon japan?

Of course we should. They are a wealthy First World nation. Let them pay for their own damned defense. Also Germany, etc.

Why in the world do we still have troops in place to defend against attacks that are NOT going to come? In case you hadn't noticed, the Red Army is unlikely to attack from East Germany into West Germany.

23 posted on 07/12/2011 7:20:03 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

South Korea spends plenty on defense. Their government is now conservative after kicking the leftists out. We have drastically reduced our forces there. They want to face down the North more than Obama does. Boo hoo if they are xenophobic and if they have leftist bastards demonstrating just like every other country.

Drumming up anti South Korean sentiment is possibly the worst idea Dennis Praeger ever had. Just maybe he is being a bit “ungrateful”.

And as for South Korea’s “cheap products” they are damn good and South Korea like Taiwan is an important economic ally in Asia.


24 posted on 07/12/2011 7:22:31 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Sherman Logan

We have troops in Japan because Japan is an incredible strategic asset for us to be stationed in, and because we want the japanese to stand up to Communist China, North Korea, etc.

We really will be finished when conservatives join hands with leftists on foreign policy.


25 posted on 07/12/2011 7:24:42 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: SeekAndFind
the Soviet Union and China backed a Communist attempt to take over the southern half of the Korean peninsula — the northern half had been Communist since the end of World War II — and install a Stalinist tyranny over the non-Communist southern half.

This is, at best, a vastly over-simplified explanation of the war, especially of how it started.

In particular, there is little or no evidence the Chicoms had much at all to do with the decision to go to war. They did not apparently care very much about what was happening in Korea till the UN forces moved right up to their border and MacArthur began making saber-rattling noises about pursuing the Norks into Manchuria.

Just finished a history of the Korean War, and it's much more complicated than this summary. To be fair to Dennis, it isn't possible to put a summary of the causes of the war into a single sentence.

26 posted on 07/12/2011 7:24:54 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: MplsSteve

We can do all the “defending’ we need to do from Guam.


27 posted on 07/12/2011 7:25:26 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: skeeter

North Koreans believe(have been told) the famine is worldwide. Everyone suffers from it. When the defectors make it to SK, they are astonished at the stocked shelves in stores. Many believe the stores aren’t real. It takes them about a year to acclimate to the idea that the immense abundance they see is true.

If the NK soldiers come across the line, they will be unable to resist looting. They are not motivated by patriotism or hatred of the enemy any more. They want to eat.


28 posted on 07/12/2011 7:26:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Williams
Way, way back...when I was just getting out of AIT we had a former military type who had been out and re-upped and re-trained as a medic. That last few days in AIT when everyone go their assignments this guy found out he was assigned to a unit in South Korea and he had also been stationed there in his previous military life.

This dude was nearly apoplectic. He said he was considering going AWOL and if he was joking about it there was no way to tell. He wouldn't even tell anyone why he hated it so bad over there, but he was an odd dude anyway, so no one ever pressed him about it much.

29 posted on 07/12/2011 7:26:46 AM PDT by libs_kma (JIMMY CARTER - HE'S BACK IN BLACK)
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To: Travis McGee

It wasn’t North Korean troops that were the problem in the Korean War, it was hundreds of thousands of Chinese Communist troops. And you think China wouldn’t love South Korea just as it covets Taiwan?

Wake up folks, Southg Korea has a CONSERVATIVE PRO WESTERN government now, it is an essential economic asset and ally of the United States and the West.

And I dont care what they call the movie. WE CAN’T GET OUR OWN MOVIES TO BE PRO AMERICAN!


30 posted on 07/12/2011 7:28:29 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Defend what from Guam after you leave everywhere to be conquered? Oh, I see, we can defend Guam. Brilliant.


31 posted on 07/12/2011 7:30:13 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: pgkdan
South Korea has a real population problem. Fertility rate: 1.23 children born/woman (2011 est.), which is 218th in the world. It has a .23% annual growth rate in population and it is an aging society with the median age 38.4.

North Korea has a fertility rate of 2.02 and its median age is 32. Its annual population growth rate is .54% or more than twice the South's.

32 posted on 07/12/2011 7:31:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: jpsb
We are in S.K. not for the Koreans but for the Japanesse. Defense of Japan starts in S.K.

The same argument applies to the Japanese. Let them defend themselves. We should tell the Chinese we're pulling out of Japan, and that Japan has our blessings to build up their own military and acquire their own nukes.

33 posted on 07/12/2011 7:32:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In the land of the pigs, the butcher is king.)
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To: ZULU

“I thought that was Pakistan”

BINGO. Praeger’s list of most ungrateful countries could easily first list:

France

Russia

Japan

Egypt

Pakistan

Afghanistan

The list could be endless.


34 posted on 07/12/2011 7:33:11 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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They have to do what is in their best interests. The PRC is right there and we’re an ocean away - and elect a$$-hats like Obama.

I suppose Hong Kong’s semi-autonomy is pretty reassuring to South Korea.


35 posted on 07/12/2011 7:33:26 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Williams
We have troops in Japan because Japan is an incredible strategic asset for us to be stationed in, and because we want the japanese to stand up to Communist China, North Korea, etc

We also don't want Japan to develop their own nuclear weapons. And we were instrumental in getting Article 9 into the Japanese constitution that essentially relegates Japan's military forces to a defensive role.

36 posted on 07/12/2011 7:35:41 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Williams

Actually, I think FRANCE should be listed several times!!


37 posted on 07/12/2011 7:37:32 AM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: Sherman Logan

There is relatively little left in Germany. The heavy mech units are long gone. What is there is primarily logistics support for the wars in the Middle East.


38 posted on 07/12/2011 7:38:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

I totally agree with this. It is past time that we left the rest of the world to sort out their own messes.

The South Korean government should conduct a national plebiscite on whether America should withdraw its troops from that country. Before the South Korean people vote, the United States should make it clear that if it withdraws its troops and North Korea later invades the south, we will send no troops to die again for South Korea; but we will vote to condemn North Korea’s aggression at the U.N.

If a majority of the South Korean people want us to leave, we should.


39 posted on 07/12/2011 7:42:02 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Williams

While I’ll agree that it’s an overreaction to a movie title, I am find with letting South Korea deal with their own defense, as well as Japan.

While the loss of our ports in Japan would be a strategic handicap, the idea that the U.S. is waging a war against communism these days seems a bit passe. We’re waging a war against virtually half the world over idealogical and economic differences, of which communism is just a part.

World War II is over. I’d much rather pull in our troops and revenue from foreign countries and build out our military at home with a huge invasion potential, so that if we ever need a port or an airfield abroad, we can simply take it, hold it, and defend it. The world is a small place these days - I feel like we should brush up on our force projection from U.S. territories rather than foreign ones wherever possible.


40 posted on 07/12/2011 7:46:59 AM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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