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DEPUTIES SEIZE ARSENAL (Weapons, ammo believed headed for Mexico)
Seguin Gazette ^ | 7/10/2011 | Felicia Frazar

Posted on 07/11/2011 7:13:49 AM PDT by Rightly Biased

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To: Ragnar54

Very good point, that lot took a huge amount of money and if a legitimate effort wouldn’t have been in such a obvious target for the police. All that was missing was the magnetic sign on the car saying “Guns to Mexico.com”.


21 posted on 07/11/2011 8:16:09 AM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: DCBryan1

I think one shotgun for each room in your house, one short/one long weapon per vehicle, and if civilization hits the crapper you’ll need lots of ammo, to kill food and protect yourself.


22 posted on 07/11/2011 8:20:14 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: BBell

thanks for putting up the pic..


23 posted on 07/11/2011 8:42:11 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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24 posted on 07/11/2011 8:42:31 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Ragnar54

“We are supposed to believe that someone with tens of thousands of dollars worth of guns and ammunition is expecting to get past the Mexican border guards/bribe collectors but is careless enough to get stopped for a traffic violation and then act guilty of smuggling?”

First, when you cross the border headed south, there are no “exit checks” on the US side. You leave the USA without ANY contact with US customs or border patrol. The first checkpoint you hit is Mexican. A “random” machine hits the red or green light. If you get green,,,you drive straight in and never hit another check.
As for a red light,,, those guys arent that good, or well paid. But they are bright enough to know they’ll be dead by the end of the week if the screw with a southbound load.

OTOH,,Texas DPS and other agencies are very good at finding smugglers. This was a Southbound Cartel load, driven by illegals.


25 posted on 07/11/2011 8:46:44 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Ancesthntr
...you can't carry a loaded long gun with you in the passenger compartment in cities or in close proximity to them ...

HUH? There is No such law in Texas. If you can legally possess a firearm, you can walk or ride down any street in Texas with a loaded long gun or handgun in/on your vehicle ready for use without a permit/license of any kind. If you are outside your vehicle and want to carry with a handgun, you need a Concealed handgun License. No restrictions on a long gun.

26 posted on 07/11/2011 9:14:36 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: steve8714
...and if civilization hits the crapper you’ll need lots of ammo, to kill food and protect yourself.

If?

27 posted on 07/11/2011 10:15:18 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: steve8714
I think one shotgun for each room in your house

Are we prepping for a zombie invasion? In any case, unless you have a Barrett .50, you'll be overrun if you are anywhere near the city.

28 posted on 07/11/2011 10:41:03 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Rightly Biased
DEPUTIES SEIZE ARSENAL (Weapons, ammo believed headed for Mexico)

So, let's see, "Arsenal" is what, two guns these days?

29 posted on 07/11/2011 11:19:33 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: steve8714

DANG! Only got one shotgun.


30 posted on 07/11/2011 11:23:19 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Rightly Biased

A lot of gun dealers use trailers to transport their inventory to gun shows. I’m not saying thats what these people were doing, but a truck towing a trailer full of guns is not altogether unusual for Texas.


31 posted on 07/11/2011 11:24:45 AM PDT by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: steve8714

Guess I’ll have to show my wife your post. Need more shotguns :)


32 posted on 07/11/2011 11:24:45 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: All; y'all

I just posted the story , I find the whole thing a little off.


33 posted on 07/11/2011 11:35:50 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: TexasRedeye
HUH? There is No such law in Texas. If you can legally possess a firearm, you can walk or ride down any street in Texas with a loaded long gun or handgun in/on your vehicle ready for use without a permit/license of any kind. If you are outside your vehicle and want to carry with a handgun, you need a Concealed handgun License. No restrictions on a long gun.

I stand corrected: there is NO Texas statute that generally prevents the open carry of a long gun (and I am glad of that). I don't know where I had heard that before - perhaps with regard to another state. However, assuming that you're going to carry the long gun somewhere you must be careful how you carry it so as not to violate TPC §42.01(a)(8) [Disorderly Conduct] that makes it an offense to "display a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm; . . ." I would assume that "disorderly conduct" is in the eye of the LEO-beholder (at least insofar as he/she decides to initiate contact & questioning), and that carrying a loaded AR or AK within city limits would raise more eyebrows than carrying a loaded bolt-action rifle in the rural areas of the state.

Thanks for the clarification - this makes me even happier to live in Texas.

34 posted on 07/11/2011 12:40:27 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: TexasRedeye
HUH? There is No such law in Texas. If you can legally possess a firearm, you can walk or ride down any street in Texas with a loaded long gun or handgun in/on your vehicle ready for use without a permit/license of any kind. If you are outside your vehicle and want to carry with a handgun, you need a Concealed handgun License. No restrictions on a long gun.

I stand corrected: there is NO Texas statute that generally prevents the open carry of a long gun (and I am glad of that). I don't know where I had heard that before - perhaps with regard to another state. However, assuming that you're going to carry the long gun somewhere you must be careful how you carry it so as not to violate TPC §42.01(a)(8) [Disorderly Conduct] that makes it an offense to "display a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm; . . ." I would assume that "disorderly conduct" is in the eye of the LEO-beholder (at least insofar as he/she decides to initiate contact & questioning), and that carrying a loaded AR or AK within city limits would raise more eyebrows than carrying a loaded bolt-action rifle in the rural areas of the state.

Thanks for the clarification - this makes me even happier to live in Texas.

35 posted on 07/11/2011 12:51:11 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: DesertRhino

We used to get pass the border (green/red) light stop without a lot of problems...But that was a lonnnnngggg time ago...

Now, before all the unrest started, a big Ford truck with Texas license plates would get the “extra special” treatment way into the interior at the 26 kilometer checkpoint on the road from Laredo and Sabinas-Hildalgo...

I have a brother-in-law who is a Mexican Federale, and we used to show the inspector(s) his card and that usually got us a pass...Nowadays we don’t even bother to go anymore...Not with all the shinanigans going on in that country...


36 posted on 07/11/2011 1:47:44 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: WayneS
...the deputy realized he was not being truthful and was given the OK to search the vehicle...

It seems to me this article leaves a lot 'unsaid' about what transpired between those two events.

OK? OK? Is that how we abbreviate "warrant signed by a judge magistrate" these days? And that's just for the search.

Good point, too, about ownership. If the guy said, "they're mine", doesn't the conversation stop there? Or does "someone" call the FBI for a NIC check to verify ownership? Or just confiscate the weapons arbitrarily without redress?

The weapons in question were long guns not subject to CHL laws (which are quite possibly irrelevant here if the guy was involved in interstate travel or, in Texas, in travel between distant counties, making him a "traveler").

Thin beef, sounds like to me. "Oh, I'm sorry, you own too many guns" -- i.e. more than none.

37 posted on 07/11/2011 2:31:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Rightly Biased; stevie_d_64; af_vet_rr; wolfcreek; humblegunner; davetex
Guadalupe County Sheriff’s Cpl. Clint Garza said a deputy stopped a black Ford truck for a traffic violation around 9 p.m. Thursday on Interstate 10 near the 604 mile marker.

And if you believe that I've got a truckload of wallboard I'd like to sell you. It isn't here, exactly, though ....

The Interstate near that mile marker is a favorite speed trap area. Think there's a Petro nearby, too. Mucho busy piece of road.

38 posted on 07/11/2011 2:35:22 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: RideForever
3 of the 4 men in the vehicle were illegal aliens. The 4th was here on a ‘non-immigrant’ visa.

Wups! Didn't see your post.

Game-changer. Now we're talking aliens in possession.

39 posted on 07/11/2011 2:40:29 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Ancesthntr
True 2nd Amendment suporters don't have a problem with themselves buying a gun for another person (a so-called "straw purchase"), which is at the heart of this scandal

That's an interesting point I hadn't seen made before, but now we're talking about aliens -- illegal aliens at that.

40 posted on 07/11/2011 2:50:38 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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