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Which Was Worse: Watergate or Operation 'Fast and Furious'?
Big Government ^ | 7/7/2011 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 07/07/2011 11:43:20 AM PDT by paul in cape

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Obama: We’re working on gun control “under the radar”


61 posted on 07/07/2011 1:35:58 PM PDT by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: paul in cape

That was my first thought!!!


62 posted on 07/07/2011 1:38:16 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Operationally Fast and Furious reminds me more of Iran Contra.

I have no objections to Iran-Contra as its purpose was to help the Nicaraguan freedom fighters fight communism. Iran Contra had a noble objective. Fast and Furious is as dumb as it gets.

But both did involve shipment of weapons across borders.

The only Watergate connection is the cover up. Who knew what and when ?


63 posted on 07/07/2011 1:47:31 PM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: paul in cape

Fast & Furious has treason writ large all over it. I want to see the racist infesting the whitehouse found guilty of treason and walk the 13 steps.


64 posted on 07/07/2011 3:31:05 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: paul in cape

Watergate occurred because Nixon and his people believed someone on the Democrat side had opened up an illegal independent channel of communication with the North Vietnam negotiators in Paris. Nixon believed it most likely was someone in the McGovern camp(his opponent in the upcoming)and that if such evidence existed it would most likely be at Watergate offices the plumbers targeted. If found it would provide the smoking gun needed to sway the pending election Nixon’s way. While wrong about the McGovern camp, Nixon was right about the independent illegal channel of communication with the North, and that it was someone from the Democrat side. Evidence in recent years has emerged which strongly indicates it was a young anti war protestor who was in Paris at the time and had unexplained trips to Moscow who had opened up such direct illegal communications with the North...on behalf of what over time proved to be his prime political benefactor, Senator Ted Kennedy.

In the end, Nixon’s motives were to secure a peace settlement that would not throw South Vietnam to the wolves. As years past top North Vietnamese government officials and negotiators admitted every time they were on the verge of seeing not choice but to agree to the hard demands being made by Kissinger because of the pressure of unrelenting bombing campaigns being carried on major targets in the North, our domestic anti war activists always seem to inspire them to hold out until they got the terms they ended up with...which essentially neutered and abandoned the South. The actual direct and consequential result which objectively has to be laid at the feet of the antiwar activists is that millions eventually lost their lives all over South East Asia. Millions!

Motives aside, Nixon and his private operatives broke the law and deserved what they got. That said, far from being a private venture, Fast and Furious was conceived and implemented at the behest of an official government agency which involved forcing private businesses to break the law. Knowing beforehand that the unavoidable consequence would be that some people would die.


65 posted on 07/07/2011 3:33:53 PM PDT by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: paul in cape

Yes indeed no one died in Watergate.


66 posted on 07/07/2011 5:15:04 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: blackdog

So do these:
US CODE TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 13 § 241. Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


US CODE TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 13 § 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


67 posted on 07/07/2011 5:46:28 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ReignOfError

>>No federal laws were broken.
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>The offices in question were in the District of Columbia, where everything from murder to littering is a matter of federal law.

Except, for some reason, they can ignore this:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, **the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.**


68 posted on 07/07/2011 5:49:01 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: paul in cape

Comrade obama made Watergate look trivial even before F&F.


69 posted on 07/07/2011 10:03:59 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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