Posted on 06/30/2011 4:39:19 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
The military is formally recognizing witches and satanists, homosexuals “marry”, porn is on billboards.
You haven’t noticed a difference between 1960 America and 2010 America?
And they probably do. And kids probably get someone older to get games for them just like they do beer and cigarettes. If the kid has money no law is going to stop them.
Aside from banning their actual abuse and murder, the government should have no control over them Period. That’s the parent’s job.
My whole point is that Govt has too much control! And adding another layer, as Thomas’ dissent would have provided, is not what I want.
What tripe. I was a kid in the 50's and the authority was Mom and Dad not government. Take government OUT of raising kids and make/let parents do it again.
There is no such thing as a ``gay parent`` according to definitions in the dictionary:
from my 1887 Webster`s dictionary:
``parent n, [OF., fr.L. parens, -entis, fr. parere, to bring forth]
1. One who begets or brings forth offsspring; a father or a mother.``
source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beget
Are the courts redefining the word ``parent``?
``Gay parent`` ia a contradiction in terms, a falsehood because it does not fit the dictionary definitions.
Red herring. We seem to agree on many issues, but not this.
Parents should have control of what their kids buy/do. That has nothing to do with military witches and I have never seen an X rated billboard even in Las Vegas. Short, tight clothes and 7 in heels isn’t ‘porn’.
Not really. Are Mom and Dad bothering to check what their kid is playing or counting on government to make sure they can't get it? Does the sweet kiddie have money? S/he can get someone older to buy games, booze and cigarettes.
The point is that Mom and Dad need to WATCH what their kid is doing. Not government.
Our laws are what create the public space, you cannot raise families in a cesspool.
Even at my wildest in life, I always wanted to protect the common space for the families, I never wanted the wild to take over that space.
“The point is that Mom and Dad need to WATCH what their kid is doing. Not government. “
The answer. Point, Set, Match.
“If the kid has money no law is going to stop them.”
That’s very true. However, I don’t know of any parent that spends 24/7 with their child. Making it more difficult for minors to get into trouble as is the case by not allowing them to buy beer, is a good thing.
Video games however, are a bit of a stretch.
Based on that reasoning do you think the USSC should also be striking down state and local laws against minors buying beer and cigarettes?
So many people are missing it.
It isn’t a red herring, you said things weren’t affecting us, they did, and they are, every decade gets us farther away from who we were.
You don’t see any x-rated billboards, because your standard of x-rated is different than what it was.
1960s even 1980s Americans would have forbidden many of our billboards today as porn, that goes for commercials, magazine ads and so on.
Nor do I. So how id a kid playing Call of duty or Persona 3 hurting anyone? HOW???? Lawyers said Judas Priest drove kids to Suicide with their music in the 802 to try milking the bands for cash. It was crap then and lawyers blaming video games on violence is crap today.
NEITHER affect the public space. Are there roaming packs of feral Warcraft players out there? No. Do TV ads cause spontaneous WW2 flashbacks in teenagers born 50 years after the war ended? no,
So what then? It ain’t the 1950s. I wish it was. But if PS3s existed then, kids would have played them.
My grandparents weren't with us 24/7 and they KNEW what we were doing. Good parenting doesn't mean being glued to the kid. It MEANS raising them right and talking with them. Being aware of where they go, what they do and who their friends are. It means being involved.
Yes, really. There is no control over your children that this law takes away from you. NONE.
You choose to allow your son to play Call of Duty.
I choose not to, but we allow pretty much any non-pornographic book you could think of to be read and discussed. We have yet to ban a book in the house, and the only “bans” on films have been to read the book before they see the movie where applicable.
The key is that in both cases, yours and mine, we are parenting and not allowing or expecting the state to do it for us. No one decision is appropriate for every child. Who better to make those decisions than the parent?
My children range from grad school through preschool. Good grades, good jobs, volunteer & charitable work, no significant problems at all. They dress modestly, aren’t selfish, snotty or mean. Our kids are awesome people.
I’m not about to hand the roll of parent over to the state.
This has nothing to do with that. I used it for comaprative purposes only.
Do you think kids get beer and cigarettes now? Do think the ones that have involved parents get them? I don't.
Not as strict as it is today. Everything's illegal these days, outside of abortion and gay stuff.
Back in my dad's day, if he got caught partying late at night and was picked up by the cops, he would get sent back to grandma who would lay down the law in house. As long as there isn't abuse (by which I refer to beatings), that's how it should be. Dad's now in his 60's and is one of the most stand up folks you'd ever meet.
I'm in my 30's. In my youth, it depended on the cop what would happen. If my young cousins or in some cases, my cousin's kid gets picked up, law enforcement's is going to ruin their lives with convictions, fines, possible jailtime, and records that affect employment and their future. All for what, getting drunk before 21? Smoking a joint? Even the major stuff. What do addicts need? Jail or treatment?
We have more laws than ever, but our community standards are fading.
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