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1 posted on 06/15/2011 12:45:02 PM PDT by tobyhill
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The WAP is unConstitutional. The question is, why has it never been challenged? The answer is, no one in congress understands the Constitution.

Although, in fairness, some Presidents, since it’s passing, has said it was unConstitutional. Nixon vetoed the damn thing as unConstitutional. But congress overrode his veto, with a 2/3rds majority.


150 posted on 06/15/2011 8:28:46 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Repeal the 16th amendment . Send Islam packing to their homeland.)
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Can someone educate me on this war powers act? I thought since we are part of NATO, which is signed by treaty, and under the constitution we are obligated to abide by said treaty, that would be an override on the war powers act.


151 posted on 06/15/2011 8:29:40 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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153 posted on 06/15/2011 9:14:27 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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I think we’re all taking too short-term a view on the purpose of granting himself power to send troops overseas at his discretion without congress to stop him. He has not drawn down troops in any theater, he his now threatening potential actions in Syria, we’re in Libya, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Our troops are spread very thin. A few more flare ups, a few more dedications of our troops to overseas activities and a single natural disaster on our shores would give Obama the media cover to claim we “need a civilian force as well trained and well armed as our military” to be available for natural disasters or issues inside our borders.

He wants his own army. If he goes straight for it, the MSM can’t propagandize the public without some seemingly logical argument. Having our troops dispersed around the globe with all resources focused outside the homeland, gives them a plausible ‘need’ to sell to the public.

Congress needs to get involved at this point to stifle this long-term objective. File impeachmenet proceedings based solely on his absence of authority under the War Powers Act. If the act is found unconstitutional or Obama comes for authority from Congress, the proceedings will be dropped. Then immediately, pass legislation in the house to raise the pentagon budget 30-50% of current levels over the next 5 years. If Obama wants to fight these wars then he can sign off on the costs to have a Military of necessary strength to do so (as a personal aside, the legislation should include that military personnel be paid Wisconsin teachers scale).

Do not give Obama an open door to develop an internal police force outside of Military ranks for any reason. This is the point of keeping our troops abroad, fomenting unrest, and avoiding congressional oversight. IMHO

BZ


154 posted on 06/15/2011 9:46:33 PM PDT by dannyboy72a (the circuit is closing)
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Not “full blown” hostilities? Seriously? We’re BOMBING THEM. It doesn’t get much more hostile!


165 posted on 06/16/2011 10:38:56 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (if there were a little more of me around we'd all be better off.)
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