Posted on 06/07/2011 11:51:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Ford lost in 1976 and that brought us Reagan. I think the long-term chances for the conservative movement are better if Obama wins than if Romney wins. The party and the sheeple voters would hopefully learn their lesson, with Rick, Sarah and Newt gaining credibility by having accurately predicted that Romney would be a bad nominee, and the voters would nominate a conservative next time.
Plus, if Obama loses, he will remain a force in the Democratic party and be able to come back and run again for a 2nd term at any time, especially if Romney fails to gain any sort of success or popularity in his first term. And if Romney governs as he did in Taxachusetts, he will be tremendously unpopular as he was there.
If Obama wins this time, he’s likely to remain gridlocked against a Republican House and maybe Senate. That will make for a weak Obama term, which would not be the case if he gets renominated and reelected in 2016 in a strong anti-Romney movement that would bring with it a liberal Congressional majority and single-payer health care. This will happen if Romney has a term like Bush, Sr.’s first or Bush Jr.’s second.
Yes there will probably be short-term pain if Obama is reelected on things like energy prices. But we might actually be able to get a veto-proof majority elected in Congress in 2014 in which case Obama would become the lamest of ducks. If Obamacare is overturned this year and Obama loses all that regulatory authority that comes with it, then there’s even less to worry about with a 2nd Obama term. Judicial appointments would be a problem, but even they aren’t permanent and don’t represent the end of the country. If Newt’s plan to counter the liberal courts was put into place later, it could even mitigate the damage judges could do.
I highly doubt Free Republic will start zotting people for planning a long-term strategy to help the conservative movement succeed, of which letting Romney lose would be a necessary part of it. Romney is not a conservative and cannot and will not help our movement, he can only hurt it. He can only move the Republican party to the left, which is a recipe for failure, and which also gives the Democrats cover to move even further to the left, making them even more dangerous.
I think now that Sarah Palin has gotten over her surge in reality TV and celebrity fame, she has been boning up better on policy. She is sounding a lot better in interviews this year than she ever has before. I think a Romney loss, just like Ford’s loss, could pave the way for our new Reagan in 2016. Palin/Gingrich is a fantastic possibility. Playing defense on Obama for 4 years in order to lead up to that is a LOT more appealing than either getting 4 years of Romney followed by Obama coming back to unseat him with a radically liberal Congressional majority on his coattails, or 8 years of Romney with a new permanently center-left Republican party that TOTALLY marginalizes the conservative movement.
What the ABO crowd is asking us to do now will NEVER stop if Romney wins. Everyone must understand you are not asking us to make just one exception in November. You will ask the same thing if Romney runs for a second term and you will ask the same thing if the candidate after him is Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Scott Brown, Joe Lieberman, or whichever liberal candidate the party decides to nominate. If you are willing to abandon your principles now, you’ll never stop doing it. The difference between the ABO crowd and the anti-Romney crowd is that we are actually looking a little bit into the future and can see where things are going. If Romney is elected, you will eventually arrive at our point-of-view. We just don’t need to actually wait and see what happens when the end result is obvious if you just stop and think 2 steps ahead.
And, yes, you can argue that Newt, Palin and everyone else is saying they will support the nominee, whoever it is. From their perspective, it’s probably better they not damage their position in the party, so they still have a chance to retake the reins of power at some point. But, in the back of their minds, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re hoping for a Romney loss so that they can work to get the party back in track for 2016, a lot sooner than it could happen if Romney wins.
Vote for the Socialist Democrat agent Slick Willard ? I’d vote for Zero first, at least he isn’t pretending to be a Republican.
287 posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:53:55 PM by fieldmarshaldj (~”This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !”~~)
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You are from this post forward, on my “Anyone who allows Obama another four years is, whistling past the graveyard of our country” ignorant idiots to ignore list.
Still waiting for you to find ONE post where I ever said a kind word about Romney or said I would ever vote for oba ma under any circumstances.
Have fun doing what you do best, giving o bama a free pass and bashing Perry, Newt, Romney and the rest of the GOP candidates. Who’s next on your list? Palin when she endorses Romney if he does win? Allen West if he does? Will there be a single one left for you to like?
Happy Easter.
He is not here; He has risen, just as He said. Matthew 28:6
Aww, you truly touch me, Mo. Of course, for somebody who keeps on whining about ignoring because they offend your Willardbot densibilities, you have this nasty habit of coming back for more whoop-ass. Happy Easter, sugarplum.
OK, looks like Romney's the guy...are you voting for him?
Looks like you’re going to do it again next year. Congrats at failing at life.
Taking a serious look at Goode. I guess considering a possible conservative is failing at life?
Oops, I guess he was banned. I waited all these months to ask him too. lol
How about you? Voting for Romney?
They got awfully offended at such a simple question. lol
Yea, well pokie split the sheets with FreeRepublic too. I guess it just doesn’t pay to threaten other FReepers LOL.
Pokie? Is that cowboyway?
;-)
Just out of curiosity...what did in phillyguy19? Romney support?
Whatever post that got him bounced is gone but there were others where he was (in his usual charming way) bashing others for precisely the same stance that you - and Jimrob for that matter - took. So yea - I imagine that he was a Romney supporter.
We can't take 4 more years of the national debt compounding the way it is. I'm surprised we've made made it this far into 2012 without a major currency conflagration. There's going to be a major reset it appears.
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