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Sheriff releases video of SWAT shooting into house of ex-Marine
KOLD News 13 Tucson ^ | 5/26/2011 | Michael Truelsen

Posted on 05/26/2011 10:23:23 PM PDT by nparker99

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To: dragnet2
Who blamed you?

Clearly I have not even come close to blaming you one little bit.

Right there is a juvenile assertion which is much like your other juvenile assertion when you repeatedly accused me of "deceit" in the last thread.

But if you need a visual how about this: "Didja happen to notice..."

No serious adult I know would post "Didja". Add I notice your failure to rebuke me with your actual age.

Now, excuse me if you are not as interesting to me as I am to you but I really got better stuff to do.

141 posted on 05/27/2011 11:55:48 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Could you please quote me on this thread, where I made a juvenile statement?

Thanks!

how about this: "Didja happen to notice..."No serious adult I know would post "Didja". Add I notice your failure to rebuke me with your actual age.

Is this a joke?

142 posted on 05/27/2011 11:59:56 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: tacticalogic
What I got was predictable from the usual suspects who post pro drugs a lot.

This thread is posted in the sidebar yet if you take out the posts from the same people, it would have a small number. That is rather pathetic for an issue these people have said is “murder” by the cops.

But about Dupnik, are you really going to allow your distaste for a single man to accuse others of murder?

Seriously?

143 posted on 05/27/2011 12:00:55 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: dragnet2

How old are you son?


144 posted on 05/27/2011 12:01:48 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: Moonman62

That was after shots were fired. (You have to put together multiple articles from KOLD.) See my post above...


145 posted on 05/27/2011 12:04:04 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Paul R.

I agree now. The 30 minutes was after the shots were fired. That’s also probably when the wife saw the officers through the window.


146 posted on 05/27/2011 12:13:18 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
What I got was predictable from the usual suspects who post pro drugs a lot.

That really doesn't matter if someone thinks drugs should be legalized or not.

Most posting here are outraged that a paramilitary operation was conducted on a homeowner, who had NO history of violence, who was shot *60* times.

This clearly appears to be a military style operation on this homeowner, as if he were some violent, mass murdering international terrorist.

If this guy was suspected of being involved with drugs, it could have been handled totally differently. He worked full time. Why not hook him up at while going to his car after work, while serving a search warrant on his home? Is this too logical or professional?

It's absolutely outrageous this is occurring in America and IMO, there is absolutely no excuse for this violent level of government action.

147 posted on 05/27/2011 12:14:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: Berlin_Freeper
How old are you son?

Son?

You don't want to play the name game with me Berlin_Freeper.

BTW, I don't provide personal information on the Internet.

148 posted on 05/27/2011 12:17:34 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"I noticed more than a few people in several threads over the past few days on this topic openly wish Death on me."

Please document this for us and also report it to the Mods, documenting that to us too. I am sure appropriate action will be taken. There is no place on FR for anything even approaching a threat of any sort.

FWIW, I for one am a Senior Citizen (at least by some definitions), took 2 puffs on a reefer ONCE in my teens (didn't like it), and have never had any but excellent interactions with Law Enforcement. But this SWAT team action has me taken aback for the reasons stated in my previous posts.

149 posted on 05/27/2011 12:26:46 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
But about Dupnik, are you really going to allow your distaste for a single man to accuse others of murder?

I haven't accused anyone of murder. Search the thread. Search all of them. You won't find any instance of me claiming they murdered this Marine.

I suspect that a lot of people you're accusing of being pro-drug are actually just against the drug war as it's currently being prosecuted. I agree with them. The federal govenment has way overstepped it's constitutional authority, and has co-opted a lot of local law enforcement agencies in the process. Characterizing that as being pro-drugs is intellectually dishonest and makes a mockery of any discussoin of wanting an "original intent" application of the Constitution.

You want everyone to wait until all the investigations are done before anyone makes any accusations, but you just accused me of claiming they were murders without any evidence at all.

150 posted on 05/27/2011 12:52:44 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
I suspect that a lot of people you're accusing of being pro-drug are actually just against the drug war as it's currently being prosecuted. I agree with them.

No. They are pro-drug. I wonder how many are Soro-funded ...

151 posted on 05/27/2011 12:54:34 PM PDT by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac
No. They are pro-drug. I wonder how many are Soro-funded ...

Care to name names? Last I heard JimRob doesn't allow that on the site.

152 posted on 05/27/2011 12:57:21 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: M1911A1
but it looks like his only chance to avoid being shot full of holes was to abjectly prostrate himself the second they poorly identified cops started beating on his door, and that goes against everything the Marine Corps COMMON SENSE teaches you.

Seriously ... Whatever he may have done for a living in the past, at the time of his murder he was working as a miner, and living simply as a Citizen of these United States. His actions to defend his home and family were right and just because he was a Citizen of a free Republic.

153 posted on 05/27/2011 12:58:45 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: douginthearmy
That's not the big question. The big question is why do we have paramilitary organizations committing urban warfare against our homes? The burden of proof that we have a MAJOR drug dealer/terrorist/known suspect in a high felony such as murder/rape. We must know the ADDRESS. We must have high level of certainty that the perp is there and civilians are few if any. That should be minimum qualifications before even getting a warrant.

This reminds me of the ATF attack on the DK compund in Waco, Texas. The ATF/FBI could have easily have picked up DK with little, if any, resistance or danger during his daily run into town; but then again, that would have deprived the AFT, FBI, and other LEO of the oppurtunity to play with their expensive toys.

The same situation in Tucson. If the press can find out where the guy worked and what time his shift was over, they probably could hjave picked him up then without firing a shot.

154 posted on 05/27/2011 12:59:20 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: tacticalogic

Care to name ONE that is NOT pro-drug?


155 posted on 05/27/2011 1:00:29 PM PDT by SeeSac
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To: Labyrinthos
They knew where the homeowner worked long before this commando style raid. Commando style raids like this should only be conducted for suspected terrorist or very violent people.

They could have *easily* set up near his car while at work, and hooked him while walking to his car. At the same time they could have easily served a warrant on his residence.

156 posted on 05/27/2011 1:12:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: SeeSac

I’m not.


157 posted on 05/27/2011 1:18:03 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: SeeSac

You got your one name. You going to cough up the list of Freepers you’re claiming to be “pro-drug” or not?


158 posted on 05/27/2011 1:25:05 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
I’m not.

Great. Care to share with us a post you made against drug use?

159 posted on 05/27/2011 1:35:27 PM PDT by SeeSac
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To: tacticalogic
You got your one name.

So you are going on record as being for criminalization of marijuana?

160 posted on 05/27/2011 1:37:52 PM PDT by SeeSac
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