Sheriff releases video of SWAT shooting into house of ex-Marine

KOLD News 13 Tucson ^ | 5/26/2011 | Michael Truelsen

[Fido969]

The “siren” ran for exactly 8 seconds and stopped, and it sounded like a car alarm. I hear that a couple of times a week, and don't give it a second thought. If that is the police idea of “announcing themselves” then it is pathetic, indeed.

As far as the shouting, I couldn't understand WHAT they were saying. I doubt if someone in the house would have either.

The Marine went from asleep to figuring out what his wife was saying, assuming a defensive position, and telling her to take cover - all in 17 seconds. He had his safety on while he was assessing the threat.

Well done Marine!

If “procedures” cause him to be killed under these circumstances, then the procedures suck. A reasonable man acting in a reasonable fashion should not be murdered in his own house by police in that fashion.

Shame on you for sticking up for this trash.

[Moonman62]

Like I said, this particular version of the videotape was edited to make it look like little warning was given. There was an audiotape released too. Based on that audiotape, this article states that SWAT was yelling and identifying themselves for thirty minutes before they entered (fake invaders wouldn't do that).

[tacticalogic]

Also what I noticed this time that it is very clear that the SWAT members were surprised by the man inside with the gun. You can clearly see them react with surprise when they started shooting.

They say they used a SWAT team to serve the search warrant because they expected the suspect to armed.

[Getsmart64]

that SWAT was yelling and identifying themselves for thirty minutes before they entered

If I read the article correctly, that was after he was dead.

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

Based on that audiotape, this article states that SWAT was yelling and identifying themselves for thirty minutes before they entered (fake invaders wouldn't do that).

Neither would the cops.. 30 seconds I buy, but 30 minutes? Not a snowballs chance in hell, not ever would a SWAT Team stand at anyones door for 30 minutes...

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

Based on that audiotape, this article states that SWAT was yelling and identifying themselves for thirty minutes before they entered (fake invaders wouldn't do that).

Neither would the cops.. 30 seconds I buy, but 30 minutes? Not a snowballs chance in hell, not ever would a SWAT Team stand at anyones door for 30 minutes...

[Moonman62]

The wife said she saw the police through her window, and the police saw her. Is that indicated on the videotape? Perhaps that’s why they took more time.

[sarge83]

Berlin when those who are being investigated are being investigated by their own how do you think it will turn out?

I am pretty pro-cop. But this case doesn’t pass the smell test. I have relatives that are officers or retired officers and they protect their own period.

I am willing to give the swat benefit of the doubt to a point, but blindly trusting that city hall will do the right thing, not happening.

Trust but verify.

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

Its not indicated on the video, but alot of what the SWAT Team claims happened isn’t on the video.

This was a murder under color of law, these cops need to be jailed and the widow should sue for multiple millions.

At some point the people will grow tired of Gestapo style tactics such as these... and the backlash will be epic.

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

Berlin when those who are being investigated are being investigated by their own how do you think it will turn out?

It'll turn out the same way it always does... the only bodies who have the tacit authority to investigate themselves are Congress and US Law Enforcement... two stellar institutions if there ever was one...

[Moonman62]

Its not indicated on the video, but alot of what the SWAT Team claims happened isn’t on the video.

The video is incomplete and altered. An unedited video, and more complete audiotapes exist. What's important is that the facts come out.

[Berlin_Freeper]

From the time that the door was knocked in to the shooting was about 5 seconds.

According to your own assessment of the video - That is the only 5 seconds these people could claim they thought it was a home invasion. That is definitely not enough time to grab a gun and be stationed in the hallway.

Before that, what you have is a "car alarm" according to you and unrecognizable mumbling sounds at the door, again according to you.

Thank you for clearing the SWAT Team in this matter. I was waiting for the investigations to be completed but you have persuaded me the police were not at fault.

[Fido969]

Didn’y have enough time to figure out it was a home invastion, but had enough time to grab a gun and take up a stance against the police?

Hey, read the wife’s statement. He didn’t own an AR-15.

Murderers and a cover-up.

[Fido969]

From the time that the door was knocked in to the shooting was about 5 seconds.

You MUST be a cop because you are such a liar, it's 17 seconds, bootlicker.

[Berlin_Freeper]

There are several investigations I was waiting for including the County Attorneys Office. But post 101 by Fido969 has greatly convinced me that the police are in fact innocent.

Do you really think that so many others would be willing to lie and put themselves at risk of being locked up to do a bunch of “murderers” a favor?

[Berlin_Freeper]

Oh so now you are alleging the police planted evidence?

Man this stuff really is predictable.

[Fido969]

Read the wife’s statement, Sherlock.

[Berlin_Freeper]

It took 6 seconds, from 0:54 to 1:00 in the video.

Before that all they must have heard was “a car alarm” and mumbling at the door.

You just proved the cops innocent. Be proud.

[Fido969]

You'd better stop popping those steroids, they're affecting your brain. 0:40 to 0:57.

You probably missed it because you were all sexually aroused seeing those thugs in their combat gear.

[Berlin_Freeper]

But according to you in post 101 genius, from 0:40 to 0:54 all that the people could have possibly heard in the house was a car alarm and mumbling at the door.

People don't think “home invasion” because they hear a car alarm and talking on the street.

Again thank you for clearing the matter up, which favors the police.

I am forwarding your observations to the investigations via email. Good job!