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‘60 Minutes’ report: Armstrong encouraged doping
Houston Chronicle ^ | 5/22/11 | EDDIE PELLS

Posted on 05/22/2011 5:14:49 PM PDT by truthandlife

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21 posted on 05/22/2011 7:01:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SuzyQue

What if it’s true?

Let’s face it, Lance had a ‘miraculous’ run when almost all of his competitors were juiced up. So *I think* he was on dope.


22 posted on 05/22/2011 7:46:05 PM PDT by mewykwistmas (Lost your job as a birther under Obama? Become a 'deather'! Where's Bin Laden's death certificate?)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I saw a portion of the interview and the guy was acting really shifty when answering the direct questions. His eyes were all over the place.


23 posted on 05/22/2011 8:29:59 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: truthandlife

First, the link has a malware download.

Lance Armstrong likely did use EPO at one point. It was during chemo and radiation treatments, which is why EPO was developed.

As for use during training and competition, I highly doubt it. The reason is his longevity in the sport. Lance has always been an extremely strong athlete, going back to when he was a triathlete while in high school. I saw him at the 1991 Texas State Road Race Championship in San Antonio (Stone Oak area before it got completely built up, and some brutal climbs). Agewise he could have raced in the junior division. Instead he raced in the Category 1/2 (that’s the range from very good amateur to on the verge of signing a pro contract), and shredded the entire field.
Riders who stay consistently strong for a decade or more are likely not on the juice.
Another example of this is Kent Bostick (who can also be a prickly type A++ personality).


24 posted on 05/22/2011 8:34:40 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Tyler Hamilton retires from cycling after failing second doping test
April 18, 2009
Diane Pucin
Hamilton, who won Olympic gold in 2004, says he took depression medication that contained a banned steroid. He served a two-year suspension after a 2004 test, but has never admitted blood doping.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/18/sports/sp-tyler-hamilton18


25 posted on 05/22/2011 8:38:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: mewykwistmas

Lance had a ‘miraculous’ run when almost all of his competitors were juiced up. So *I think* he was on dope.

Look at his health history. I would dare say that he would not even consider being on the juice. He has already faced his own mortality before, and has already considered what that stuff could wake up inside of him. And I mean something that could be fatal. With that history, messing with the endocrine system with artificial substances in NOT a good idea. Proper training and good nutritional supplementation may be more work, but has longer lasting results. By good nutritional supplementation, I use Michael Colgan’s “Optimum Sports Nutrition” as an example.


26 posted on 05/22/2011 8:41:32 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: truthandlife

Cyclist Tyler Hamilton has turned in his 2004 Olympic gold medal to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency after admitting in a “60 Minutes” interview that he took performance enhancing drugs along with Lance Armstrong, and a second former teammate of Armstrong’s also has come forward to accuse him of doping.

Hamilton’s lawyer, Chris Manderson, tells the Wall Street Journal that the cyclist returned his medal because he didn’t want the controversy to distract from his confession and allegations that he saw the seven-time Tour de France winner dope.

The USADA confirms it has Hamilton’s medal and “will continue to work with the IOC and the USOC as appropriate concerning the final implications of our overall investigation,” according to the Journal.

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George Hincapie, a longtime member of Lance Armstrong’s inner circle, also told federal authorities he saw the seven-time Tour de France winner use performance-enhancing drugs, according to another segment of the “60 Minutes” report that aired Friday night on the “CBS Evening News.”

Hincapie has often been depicted as one of Armstrong’s most loyal teammates and was with him for all seven Tour victories. In an interview last year, Armstrong said Hincapie was “like a brother to me.”

Hincapie is among a number of former Armstrong teammates and employees who have appeared before a federal grand jury in Los Angeles investigating doping in cycling. Hamilton said he testified for six hours before the panel.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/05/20/teammate-accuses-lance-armstrong-doping/


27 posted on 05/22/2011 8:49:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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Now one of the race directors at the Tour of California, Andreu told Pelley he took banned substances because lesser riders he believed were doping were passing him.

“Training alone wasn’t doing it and I think that’s how ... many of the other riders during that era felt, I mean, you kind of didn’t have a choice,” he is quoted as saying.

Andreu’s wife, Betsy, who has said Armstrong discussed taking performance-enhancing drugs as doctors prepared him for cancer treatment in 1996, said she and her husband are working with investigators.

“We are cooperating, and we’ll just tell the truth. And telling the truth has been costly,” she said. “It’s not popular to tell the truth about Lance.”

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/05/20/teammate-accuses-lance-armstrong-doping/


28 posted on 05/22/2011 8:52:11 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: truthandlife

And Hamilton countered Armstrong’s claim of having never failed a drug test, saying that Armstrong told him in a relaxed, “off the cuff” manner that Armstrong had failed a test at the 2001 Tour of Switzerland.

“People took care of it,” Hamilton said. “I don’t know all the exact details but Lance’s people and people from the other side, people I believe from the governing body of the sport, figured out a way for it to go away. I was told this (by) Lance.”

The “60 Minutes” report offered no hard evidence that UCI officials helped Armstrong evade a doping suspension, but cited a Swiss lab director’s statement to the FBI that said a UCI official wanted the matter of a “suspicious” test to go no further and set up a meeting with Armstrong and team officials.

The report also noted Armstrong donated $25,000 and $100,000 to the UCI, which Armstrong said was for anti-doping work.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/cbs-hamilton-says-armstrong-doped-took-care-of-a-2001-tour-de-suisse-positive_175474


29 posted on 05/22/2011 8:57:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: USNBandit

I saw a portion of the interview and the guy was acting really shifty when answering the direct questions. His eyes were all over the place.

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I agree bad body langauge

60 Minutes, 05.22.11, Video
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/60_minutes/video/?pid=Y1bXgfRDBk4ELaiUeZdW4F5ZLE23VeIU&vs=homepage&play=true


30 posted on 05/22/2011 9:07:55 PM PDT by restornu (If folks donÂ’t speak boldly they stand for nothing but veneer! God Bless America!)
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To: truthandlife
"They were pretty much all doing it if they were contenders. It is a dirty sport."

If, as you say, all the contenders were doping, wouldn't that negate any "unfair advantage" Armstrong might have gained by doping?

31 posted on 05/22/2011 9:09:05 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: truthandlife

SO the story is that Lance Armstrong led an open and active encouragement of doping for an entire team of athletes, most of whom were never top contenders, and who ended up on other teams, and not ONE of those athletes EVER came forward when Lance was later scrutinized, even though it would have helped their current teams and not really hurt them in any serious way?

Before, we were to believe that Lance was doping, but was so good at it, and so secretive, that nobody knew. Now we are to believe that he was so loved or feared that everybody knew and nobody said anything.

Get a positive blood test, and I’ll believe it.


32 posted on 05/22/2011 11:57:03 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Almost every top rider Armstrong competed against - never mind those who rode at his side during his USPostal days has been tainted by PED use or blood doping.

I just cannot believe everyone believes Armstrong is clean. I am sure when he grand jury comes out, it will be pretty damning.


33 posted on 05/23/2011 3:43:15 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: kcvl

I mean, you kind of didn’t have a choice,” he is quoted as saying.

You always have a choice. Always.


34 posted on 05/23/2011 4:24:50 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: truthandlife
When I saw this story on Armstrong, it reminded me of the story "60 Minutes" did on Greg Mortenson a few weeks ago. Perhaps it is a coincidence, but the one on Greg Mortenson was after a disastrous Obama speech on the economy and this one was after a horrendous Obama speech on the Middle East. Both of these Obamanation orations were chock full of lies and deceptions. But does 60 Minutes/CBS fact check any of these? No, they go after men who have become heroes based on real accomplishments. Yes, if they were dishonest they should be held accountable, but if 60 Minutes is on such a truth crusade how can it avoid the Gorilla in the room: all of Obama's so called "accomplishments" are based on lies and half truths.

Like I wondered about the timing of the Mortenson piece, I also wonder about the timing of the Armstrong attack. Perhaps the reason for these "exposes" is to try and show how easy it is to take some “shine” off anyone. When Bill Clinton was under siege for his indiscretions, I recall the media trying to help him out by basically lowering the “ethics” bar and trying to say that "everybody" in Washington had “Bill Clinton” type ethical problems.

If CBS is really trying to bring the "bar" all the way down to Obama’s level I think we will be seeing a lot more of these hit pieces. Stay tuned.

35 posted on 05/23/2011 5:14:38 AM PDT by Heuristic Hiker
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To: truthandlife

CBS is a renowned liar.


36 posted on 05/23/2011 6:30:57 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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