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Zogby New Poll Stunner: Christie, Cain Lead GOP Pack
News Max ^ | 05/20/2011 | David A. Patten & Ashley Martella

Posted on 05/21/2011 6:16:51 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP

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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Find out which candidates Karl Rove finds acceptable and you’ll know the establishment preferred RINOS we need to defeat.


141 posted on 05/21/2011 9:21:07 AM PDT by chickenlips (Karl Rove- the RINO ruminator, striking fear in donuts everywhere)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I am a Cain-anite following Herman to the Promised Land.
142 posted on 05/21/2011 9:22:21 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Reagan Man

It’s too bad that this crackpot keeps sponging voters away from our cause though! Like Perot, we have these extremist idiots who are too stupid to understand their own stupidity!

This ticks me off more than anything I can say in public!


143 posted on 05/21/2011 9:23:53 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
It relates that the polls are a load of meaningless crap at this point.

The public is always looking for an alternative (or at least we're told that they are according to the polls) and then change their minds when they get it, if that's even what they thought in the first place.

Has nothing to do with being a liberal democrat.

144 posted on 05/21/2011 9:25:34 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Intensity ratings of the front runners, people with over 70% name recognition

Palin 16
Romney 14
Gingrich 13
Paul 11

Of course, intensity rating are, again, bs, because the name recognition factor is removed, and the relevance of the number of strongly dislike is minimal in a primary.

But, even using the “intensity” metric, Palin comes out on top among the well known candidates.


145 posted on 05/21/2011 9:25:49 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: chickenlips

Rove likes 3 candidates;.......ROMNEY, ROMNEY, and ROMNEY.

Either one is different on any given day!


146 posted on 05/21/2011 9:26:02 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: truthfreedom

Spin it however you think works for you.

But reality and the facts will all come out in the wash. Your candidate has serious issues that are going to take an utter miracle to correct. (And the “Rapture” is now out of the question after today.)


147 posted on 05/21/2011 9:28:58 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: Tanniker Smith

They are not meaningless crap at this point either. They are simply focused on Name Recognition in the early stages. It gives the voters a way to gage who is making an impact, and who is not.

The debates, adds, campaign, etc, goes in the usual stages as they always do. It’s not like this is our first time and that we need illumination or education, that’s a fact you might learn for yourself.


148 posted on 05/21/2011 9:33:17 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: chickenlips

Here’s a tip.

Unless you’re famous right now, you aren’t going to win the Republican Primary.

Democrats are the ones who pick the unknowns. Obama, Clinton, Carter.

Republicans pick the “top” republican. The top Republican cannot use “running for President that year” as their method of getting famous enough to win.

It’s not really that the singlemost top Republican always wins, but the Republican who does win always is able to make the case that he or she is the top Republican.

Right now Palin, Gingrich, Romney, Paul and almost, kinda Bachmann can make that argument. Nobody knows or cares about Pawlenty or Daniels or any of the other ones.

If you want to know who the RINOs we need to defeat, it’s Romney and Gingrich. We want to encourage as many RINOs who cannot claim “top” status to run (because they won’t win), and we want to stop Romney and Gingrich.

Remember how terrible McCain was in 2007? Four years ago he was pushing amnesty, and we were hating him. But he won. Because he was top Republican.


149 posted on 05/21/2011 9:35:29 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Herman Cain’s Answers in First Republican Debate for 2012:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDG-uvE1UOM

Herman Cain! Clear Winner of First Republican 2012 Debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=desjWOUQCYs

Herman Cain versus Bill Clinton in 1994:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WP5dYfBBzU

Herman Cain: Barack Obama Is Bad For The Economy in 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIzJHAw8Vmo

Herman Cain on Cavuto Tells What’s Wrong With Obama’s Speech on Healthcare in 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTcVO_1TPZ8

Herman Cain at CPAC (Full):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDkacOveF0

Herman Cain: You Mess With Israel, You Mess With the US:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy7Zn-f2zg8

Herman Cain on 2012: We’ve Got to Get This Country Back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADwSnQKaGR8

Herman Cain on America Live 4.25.11:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2DIdYxAiNM

Herman Cain on America’s News Headquarters 5.1.11:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rat1zVxj3n4

Herman Cain on The Laura Ingraham Show 2011:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0jfUYhLndQ

Herman Cain on the Fed and Economic Stimulus (Rusty Humphries Show):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI_oocjB3A8

Herman Cain At Right Nation 2010:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Fp9ccq7-g

Herman Cain on the Mark Levin Show, 4/22/11:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MCal7XCslI

Herman Cain Show Podcast clips:
http://feeds.wsbradio.com/TheNewHermanCainShow

Common Sense Solutions: The People’s Platform for America I:
http://feeds.wsbradio.com/~r/TheNewHermanCainShow/~5/JYGXBZ0hdRA/the_herman_cain_100929481.mp3

Common Sense Solutions: The People’s Platform for America II: http://feeds.wsbradio.com/~r/TheNewHermanCainShow/~5/yXL-HR0VIXk/herman_cain_show_100929491.mp3

Common Sense Solutions: The People’s Platform for America III: http://feeds.wsbradio.com/~r/TheNewHermanCainShow/~5/C68YlcslyD8/the_herman_cain_100930551.mp3

America, we have a problem: http://feeds.wsbradio.com/~r/TheNewHermanCainShow/~5/hM-xssRuhrQ/the_herman_cain_100858901.mp3

This is not the United States of China:
http://feeds.wsbradio.com/~r/TheNewHermanCainShow/~5/5WsW4vZaWMc/the_herman_cain_100901281.mp3

Herman’s background and business experience:
http://feeds.wsbradio.com/~r/TheNewHermanCainShow/~5/uUIf46JAd4A/the_herman_cain_100951961.mp3

Constitution or corruption:
http://feeds.wsbradio.com/~r/TheNewHermanCainShow/~5/-VYhcr2ahfg/the_herman_cain_100942901.mp3


150 posted on 05/21/2011 9:48:20 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

My candidate is Ron Paul.
Sarah Palin is likely to win in a romp.
Although I prefer Ron Paul, I do recognize that Sarah Palin has the much easier path to the Republican nomination, and I definitely prefer Palin to Gingrich to Romney, by a wide margin, and I do think that it might be best to realize that.

Republicans don’t vote for unknowns. Ever. And there are about 4.5 candidates right now who are well known enough to win. Cain isn’t one of them.

But Cain is doing so strong right now that he might just want to “reposition” himself as an elite, like Romney, Gingrich, Pawlenty, Daniels, etc., as a businessman, but approved by the elite. That way, we win.

The “conservative tea party” slot goes to Palin, and the “elite” slot goes to Cain.

Sort of like how 4 years ago most if not all the front runners were unacceptable RINOs, and they were being defined as Conservatives. Here, Conservatives could be taking RINO slots from RINOs. The Cain resume is one that elites can be very comfortable with.


151 posted on 05/21/2011 9:53:09 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Cain is coming on like a fully loaded Tractor Trailer on the back side of Pikes Peak.

You left out in high gear going down hill. ROLL ON! Raise CAIN!!

152 posted on 05/21/2011 10:00:56 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
You are taking this way too personally.

You took my initial dismissal of the polls as a slap against your candidate. You could have just as dismissed my post instead of insinuating that I thought Cain was a liberal Democrat, which is conclusion that I would've said only a liberal Democrat looking to twist words around could've made, but I stand corrected.

153 posted on 05/21/2011 10:20:17 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I am afraid that people are so disappointed with our first black president that this will cause a backlash on Cain.


154 posted on 05/21/2011 10:26:17 AM PDT by Pardeeville Liberator
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To: Pardeeville Liberator
Not at all possible. They will embrace Cain, because he is not phony like Obama. Obama was elected on the promise of what Cain has lived his entire life accomplishing.
155 posted on 05/21/2011 10:38:56 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: truthfreedom

In that case, you are in for a great disappointment.


156 posted on 05/21/2011 10:40:28 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: Mozilla

And the question remains, “Is He qualified?”

And the answer is........HANDS DOWN!


157 posted on 05/21/2011 10:44:06 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: blackdog

No I do not want Christie in any cabinet position. He should stick to what he knows, being a prosecutor and even at that he sucks. Keep in mind this is a man who said “Illegal aliens haven’t broken any laws’’. Sorry friend, this guy is all bs.


158 posted on 05/21/2011 10:50:38 AM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

How so? I said I think Palin will win in a romp. Not sure how my preference for Ron Paul plays into that.

When my expectation is for a Palin victory occurs, as I expect, I don’t think that it’ll be a great disappointment.

What’s best for America? I’d say Ron Paul, but that’s not what we’re talking about here. Doesn’t matter, everyone has their own opinion.

What’s best for the Republican party? “First Female President was a Republican” will have a positive impact on the Republicans electoral prospects for generations.

I support Ron Paul because I think he’d be the best, not because he’s the most likely to win. I’m pretty surprised he’s doing so well in the polls, but not really (people that no one ever heard of except for people who are paid to write about them are not suprisingly doing not so well).


159 posted on 05/21/2011 10:53:55 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: jmacusa

I agree, besides, Christie has too big an ego to accept a cabinet position. It also does not pay enough for his lifestyle.


160 posted on 05/21/2011 10:55:08 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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