Posted on 05/16/2011 10:01:30 AM PDT by massmike
If you think THEY planned this and did this purely for political reasons, then the mission would have failed miserably, because they have no clue how to plan and conduct an operation of this magnitude.
No, I don't.
Your stalking of birthers and mocking of these FReepers who are constitutionalists and who object to the conspiracy to defend Obama’s lack of transparency is an Alinski and trolling tactic.
I don't stalk any FReeper or troll any threads. I comment on birther threads for two reasons. First, the subject interests me. Second, I don't want to see FR's reputation ruined by delusional theories and conspiracies, however "well-intentioned" those theories are. Somebody has to be a voice of reason because the birther group-think gets pretty thick around here at times.
You correctly point out factual error that some newbies make as they explore birther claims, but you then smear all birther constitutionalists using birther as an epithet.
It isn't just newbies. I've seen FReepers from '98/'99 make the same mistakes. That misinformation must be corrected to protect the integrity of FR and all conservatives.
I am regularly offended by your derisive name-calling (birther as an epithet) posts which lump me in with newbies who claim that an American couldn't go to Pakistan in 1981, or other well-intended, but uninformed mistakes.
I don't use the term birther as an epithet. It's just a name for the group that stuck. I used to be one, so I'll continue to use the term until JR or the mods forbid it.
Half of you are offended and half of you send me private freepmails thanking me for providing some sanity and logic on the eligibility threads and for pointing them to specific evidence that refutes demonstrably false claims. Sorry, I can't please all of you.
You, youself, BuckeyTexan, are a type of birther which is a Leo Donofrio two-citizen NBC birther, but you have chosen to go on a campaign to attack FReepers who also believe that it also matters where Obama was born (jus soli) and that Obama's sustained withholding of his HI BC was in itself evidence that he had something to hide.
Correct, I don't believe Obama is an NBC because he doesn't have two citizen parents. The difference between you and me is that I'll accept a SCOTUS ruling that says otherwise. I won't bend the law for an agenda. And ... I know a losing issue when I see it.
Unlike birthers, I don't launch personal attacks against those who disagree with me on this subject. I don't attack FReepers. I dispute points of logic. And I regularly add caveats to my posts to indicate that not all birthers are the same.
Yep, you got the LFBC thanks to The Donald. What good did it do you? It didn't resolve anything and most of you think it's a forgery.
Somewhere, in a luxurious room full of Trump books and Celebrity Apprentice memorabilia, sits a wealthy man with a big combover, crushed dreams of being President and a heaping helping plate-full of crow.
Bon appetite, Donald. Maybe you can use that fork that got stuck in your ass, and chow down on some of that crow.
What I'm still scratching my head about was Trump's bizarre statement at the end of Huckabee’ show on Saturday.
It is not a matter of if the LFBC or “Whatever” is a forgery or not. It issue is, to the bulk of the American public, it simply does not matter and it never will.
We have to beat Obama at the polls. That is the only way this can be corrected.
Again, thanks for stating that. I'd long since gotten tired of doing so.
Will it stick? I doubt it. A lot of passion is being wasted.
I will say it again. Someone is putting pressure on the field. There are a lot of “always ran (Huck)” that have chosen to sit this one out. Maybe it is the $1billion war chest of Obama, or maybe it is some other pressure. But something is up.
But...But.....IT”S A FAKE!
(All the blogpimps said so......right here.)
To me there were two thrusts of “not qualified” movement I supported -
1) Can we GET a ruling on exactly what a NBC is? I would LOVE to be shown to be wrong by the SCOTUS and that there is some third category of citizen that is neither natural born or naturalized.
2) Can we have the State of birth DOH send over a COLB directly to the ballot issuing State? Numerous legislative efforts towards this got drowned in “Long form madness” (conflicting with the Full Faith and Credit Clause) - but it is a worthwhile law - and hard to believe that such a mechanism wasn't in place previously.
I knew that asking “Where is the Birth Certificate?” was a one way ticket to nowhere - and I predicted it would blow up in some faces.
I knew that anyone saying “Just release the Long Form and this ALL GOES AWAY!” was either delusional or disingenuous as there was no way this issue was going to go away: it would be said to be a fraud - and the argument would move on to the NBC requirement.
Glad I was shown to be right on that now instead of in October!
Thanks for the good work!
$100 to FR on election day 2012 says that neither Palin nor the GOP front-runner raises Obama's BC as a campaign issue.
If we can't win on the issues alone, we're done as a nation.
Roy Moore and Willard “Mitt” Romney both have exploratory committees. The other two have both discussed running but have not declared either way.
That was very strange. Have you seen a link to a video with Trump's statement? I would like to watch that again.
Thank you Donald...for getting in......and getting out.
***(All the blogpimps said so......right here.)***
And that’s pretty much all they said...with a link to their cool blog.
“Girth Certificate” Excellent!
I know that but we’re at the point that he’s defying court orders, the pubs are doing zero about it. I guess I don’t see much hope of getting him out of office either. Blue Monday, maybe I’ll be back to my usual optimism on Terrific Tuesday.
There is a lot of fraud involved in the birth certificate issue. That as well as any of his illegal moves would get any ‘normal’ prez impeached. It’s just that there is ‘one’ of his problems that seems to be taboo and I don’t understand why.
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