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THREAT MATRIX 2011 #2
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| May 4, 2011
| TM CREW
Posted on 05/04/2011 12:06:24 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: MestaMachine
I listened to two Moslem woman on the news tonight..one very liberal and modern, the other in the hag-drab. The overtones of the Islamic thought comes thru just the same no matter how they frame where they are coming from.
Saying they are happy Ben Ladens gone.....is all about finding favor in our eyes so they can continue on with their agenda....and it doesn’t matter if they are conscious of this or not...it’s breed into them. When push comes to shove they will do what they have to to find favor among whoever they are among.,...and that includes their own people. Truth is not understood by them...it is whatever the moment calls for so they can survive...and that they are experts at.
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posted on
05/04/2011 6:39:17 PM PDT
by
caww
To: MestaMachine
OK explain why the liar in chief is not releasing the photos...what is the Muslim effect he is working towards
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posted on
05/04/2011 7:11:09 PM PDT
by
blueyon
(The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
To: blueyon
No photo and they keep the myth, the legend. and they seek revenge for us lying about one of their holy men; photo and they seek revenge anyway. The koran demands punishment to those who lie about their holy men.
So HE personally gains with muslims by NOT releasing a photo, because by NOT releasing it, it makes AMERICA and our military look like they are hiding something, and that can ONLY be that we really did not kill bin laden. After all, 0 was the victim of misinformation given to him by the CIA and our military...so he was duped just like they were. They can forgive him for that.
And if they saw one, the effect would probably be the same quest for revenge and they would say we were cowards who shot an unarmed man. I even saw one report where they are saying he was killed while he slept. WE don’t win with this. Photo or not.
OBAMA wins with no photo. The muslims win with no photo. And either way, WE lose.
Remember that in his televised speech, he framed bin laden as a heroic martyr who went down fighting the good fight.
But for US, a photo would be proof that bin laden ia actually dead and frankly, I don’t think he wants to prove it to us.
Krauthammer had a comment tonight that was very revealing. They said this op, as dangerous as it could have been, was for the sole purpose of being able to PROVE that we got bin laden. That was why he didn’t want a drone strike. So if the purpose was to PROVE it, why doesn’t he? It is contradictory in the extreme.
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posted on
05/04/2011 7:59:21 PM PDT
by
MestaMachine
(If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
To: MestaMachine; bruinbirdman
thread got no attention; nevertheless, posting here:
Benjamin Netanyahu: Palestinian pact ‘a great victory for terrorism’
The Telegraph ^ | 5/4/2011
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2715188/posts
In Cairo on Wednesday, rival Palestinian factions Fatah and Hamas proclaimed a landmark reconciliation deal aimed at ending their bitter four-year rift that has left them divided between separate governments in the territories envisioned for a future Palestinian
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posted on
05/04/2011 9:02:32 PM PDT
by
thouworm
To: bgill; Dengar01
“Dengar1, has spotted “suspicious” and unusual muslim activity in his suburban Chicago neighborhood and reports that this activity is happening in another nearby community as well.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dengar01’s THREAD:
Suspicious Activity amongst the Islamic Community in Chicago (Since OBL Dead)
Free Republic ^ | 5/3/11 | Dengar01
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:49:02 PM by Dengar01
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2714553/posts
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posted on
05/04/2011 9:13:35 PM PDT
by
thouworm
To: MestaMachine
Hope you’re feeling better, Patriot!
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posted on
05/04/2011 10:25:59 PM PDT
by
Absolutely Nobama
(A Movement that does not move cannot call itself a Movement.)
To: MestaMachine; Yehuda; null and void; Tax-chick; Armaggedon
But for US, a photo would be proof that bin laden ia actually dead and frankly, I dont think he wants to prove it to us. Krauthammer had a comment tonight that was very revealing. They said this op, as dangerous as it could have been, was for the sole purpose of being able to PROVE that we got bin laden. That was why he didnt want a drone strike. So if the purpose was to PROVE it, why doesnt he? It is contradictory in the extreme. There sure are many similarities between the osamadrama and obama's behavior regarding the COLB, the release of two faux versions and so forth. If absolutely nothing else, these actions are a wholesale denigration and mocking of the America People, the Constitution, and all of our hallowed institutions and traditions.
The foundation of America - the beautiful land of liberty, the rule of law, and peace - was built upon the precepts given to us by the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph. America is the spirit of freedom, the tangible sands of all the dreams and hopes of oppressed people longing to break the shackles of tyrants.
This is why Obama and his cult of locust demons hate America with every microgram of their dark hearts. They know WHO is the origin of the spirit and life of America, and know that [as worshipers of self and the satan] they have no inheritance in a beautiful land formed by Hashem's loving hand.
Like Jezebel, they covet this vineyard of Naboth for their own convenience and abuse of power. The American People won't sell their birthright to the lords in DC (despite decades of policies crafted to pollute the land with Jezebelic grifters), so obamanation's solution is to belittle, frustrate, abuse, torment, and ultimately whack the rightful heirs.
1 Kings 21
2. And Ahab spoke to Naboth, saying, Give me your vineyard, that I may have it for a vegetable garden, because it is near to my house; and I will give you for it a better vineyard than it; or, if it seems good to you, I will give you its worth in money:
3. And Naboth said to Ahab, The Lord forbid it me, that I should give the inheritance of my fathers to you:
The point is, the lying obamaspirit of craft, chaos, and deception will have its reward, as Jezebel was rewarded for her work. The dogs are hungry and the fields need fertilizing.
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posted on
05/04/2011 10:34:03 PM PDT
by
Ezekiel
(The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
To: Ezekiel
Expect the photos to be releases a few weeks before the 2012 election.
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posted on
05/04/2011 10:37:05 PM PDT
by
null and void
(We are now in day 832 of our national holiday from reality. - It's 3 AM, time to arrest Obama)
To: null and void
Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
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posted on
05/04/2011 10:45:40 PM PDT
by
Ezekiel
(The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
To: All
Terrorist Group Setting Up Operations Near Border (Hezbollah in Mexico)
10NEWS (KGTV - San Diego) ^ | May 4, 2011 6:27pm | 10NEWS
A terrorist organization whose home base is in the Middle East has established another home base across the border in Mexico.
“They are recognized by many experts as the ‘A’ team of Muslim terrorist organizations,” a former U.S. intelligence agent told 10News.
The former agent, referring to Shi’a Muslim terrorist group Hezbollah, added, “They certainly have had successes in big-ticket bombings...”
Now, the group is blending into Shi’a Muslim communities in Mexico, including Tijuana. Other pockets along the U.S.-Mexico border region remain largely unidentified as U.S. intelligence agencies are focused on the drug trade...
The agent, who has spent years deep undercover in Mexico, said Hezbollah is partnering with drug organizations, but which ones is not clear at this time... According to the agent, the organization sees the U.S. as their “cash cow,” with illegal drug and immigration operations. Many senior Hezbollah leaders are wealthy businessmen, the agent said...
(Excerpt) Read more...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2715294/posts
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posted on
05/04/2011 11:33:44 PM PDT
by
LucyT
To: Ezekiel
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posted on
05/05/2011 4:46:36 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(We learned to be cool from you, JP2.)
To: MestaMachine; All
Another muslim leader commenting on the news. This guy is *very* central:
Advice to Muslims on the Death of Osama bin Ladin by Sheikh Haitham al-Haddad
The killing of Osama bin Ladin, may Allah have mercy on him, if proven to be true, may either be a coincidence or part of a strategic manoeuvre by the US and its allies to justify the adoption of new tactics in their war on terror that has clearly proven to be counterproductive. It may be alleged that he was killed a long time ago but the killing was only now announced as a justification for the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan. All of these are possibilities that no one can emphatically confirm, and indeed, there need not be an exertion of effort to confirm or disprove the claims as wisdom dictates that we deal with facts and realities whilst planning for the worst of scenarios.
Whatever the case may be, Osama left this worldly life to meet his Lord who is the ultimate judge. Almighty Allah knows everything about him, his actions, and the conspiracies that surround his life. He knows what Osama did, what he didnt do, and what we were made to believe that he did. In any case, he died as a Muslim and it is an established part of our Islamic creed that every Muslim, unlike the disbelievers, will eventually enter paradise. According to a number of scholars, the Muslim killed by the enemies of Islam is considered a martyr, regardless of whether he died during combat or simply in a state of non-combative military engagement such as being killed whilst sleeping. Other scholars limit the title of martyr only to those Muslims who are killed during active combat. Whatever the case may be, all scholars have agreed that mistakes made by a Muslim fighter in combat do not deprive him of his rights, whether it be the right of regarding him a martyr or any other Islamic right. The Prophet (peace be upon him) became very angry at his close companion Usamah ibn Zayd when he killed a disbeliever after he had said there is no God but Allah. The Prophet furiously repeated, have you killed him after he said: there is no God but Allah! However, the Prophet (peace be upon him) continued to appoint Usamah ibn Zayd as the general of the Muslim army and actually appointed him to lead the biggest military expedition that was undertaken during the Prophets life.
Any position we adopt must be bound by the guidelines of the Shariah and free from emotions and personal whims. We should intend to say (and act upon) what pleases Allah and not what pleases certain individuals, groups or governments. Saddam Hussain, may Allah have mercy on him, was amongst the persons most hated by Muslims having committed many heinous crimes. However, when he was hung he proclaimed: There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger. Based upon this, we have no choice but to ask Allah to bestow His mercy upon Saddam as he clearly died a Muslim. Allah informs us that he does not give the courage to any person on his/her deathbed to declare the testimony of faith unless he or she is a true Muslim. Allah says,
Allah will keep firm those who believe, with the word that stands firm in this world and in the Hereafter. And Allah will cause to go astray those who are Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers, etc.), and Allah does what He wills.[1]
Having said this, I would like to state that although these matters are in agreement with Islamic principles, the application of the principles in relation to certain individuals should not be a cause of fitnah and disunity among Muslims. Unity of Muslims and the purity of their hearts towards each other must be observed regardless of the scale of disagreements between them, as long as the scale of disagreement remains within the bounds of Islam.
Even though we fundamentally disagree with al-Qaeda and we condemn the unjustified killing that is attributed to them, it was very much instigated by the enemies of Islam themselves. In fact, I strongly believe that the presence of al-Qaeda is pleasing to the US especially as it allows the US justification for their crimes. In comparison, any amount of people killed by al-Qaeda has undoubtedly been trebled by the killing sprees of the US in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Gaza and other countries.
It is surprising how this major world Superpower was not only terrorized by a single man walking the face of the earth, but was also terrorized by him even whilst dead. President Obama declared that they would deal with the body of Bin Ladin in accordance with Islamic law and thus they threw it into the sea. This is the so-called respect that the US shows to Islam. In reality, these are the actual morals and values that America really calls for.
Whatever we say, Allah has the final say, and on the day of resurrection the truth will be revealed. Muslims will dwell in the delight of paradise and the disbelievers will be burned in the hellfire forever.
These two opponents (believers and disbelievers) dispute with each other about their Lord; then as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling water will be poured down over their heads. With it will melt or vanish away what is within their bellies, as well as (their) skins. And for them are hooked rods of iron (to punish them). Every time they seek to get away from it out of anguish, they will be driven back therein, and (it will be) said to them: "Taste the torment of burning!" Truly, Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous good deeds, to Gardens underneath which rivers flow (in Paradise), wherein they will be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls and their garments therein will be of silk. And they are guided (in this world) unto goodly speech and they are guided to the Path of He who is Worthy of all praises.[2]
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posted on
05/05/2011 6:45:42 AM PDT
by
Hardraade
(I want gigaton warheads now!!)
To: mnehring; MestaMachine
As is his wont, he has taken all he credit unto himself, patting himself on the back as if he had planned and executed this operation with no input or help from anybody....for US. THAT is what WE heard. The LCMDR. Fitzpatrick has a total different opinion of what might really have taken place in the situation room!
Panetta is now saying they had a total video black-out during the raid!!
Looks like we are witnessing a re-play of the movie "WAG THE DOG"!!!
No photos presented as proof, what IF OBL was NOT in the "house," it just don't meet the smell test, like the total faked B.C., hmmm???
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posted on
05/05/2011 7:24:04 AM PDT
by
danamco
(-)
To: MestaMachine
And another muslim joining the dance. From a talib outlet:
Egypt Salafi Cleric Says Bin Laden Died A Martyr
CAIRO: A leader of an increasingly prominent hardline sect in Egypt praised Osama bin Laden on Tuesday and said the jihadist leader was a martyr who died with his "head held high."
Yassir Al-Burhami, a Salafi cleric in the Mediterranean port city of Alexandria, said bin Laden was a "martyr" who "was killed with his head held high, and God did not hand him over to his enemies," the official MENA news agency reported.
He added that that the disposal of bin Laden's body at sea after US commandos killed him in a Pakistan hideout showed the United States "knows no sanctity towards those alive or dead."
Salafis believe Muslims should return to the practices of their forbears. The sect's followers are mostly peaceful but its ideology has also inspired militants such as the Saudi-born bin Laden.
They have begun taking a more active role in Egyptian politics after a popular revolt ousted president Hosni Mubarak in February.
Salafist popularity is difficult to gauge but its increasing assertiveness worries secular Egyptians and the country's large Coptic Christian minority.
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posted on
05/05/2011 7:29:48 AM PDT
by
Hardraade
(I want gigaton warheads now!!)
To: danamco
osama bin laden was buried in the saudi arabian desert in 2005. I have been waiting, waiting, waiting to see how this admin was going to wiggle out of this. Petraeus to CIA? Panetta to Pentagon? You betcha.
Don’t need no steenking sandy berger to rob the National Archives this time.
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posted on
05/05/2011 7:34:29 AM PDT
by
MestaMachine
(If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
To: Hardraade
obama has made this so easy for them. My head is about to explode! Lies upon lies. Coverup of bin laden’s death in 2005 and we KNEW it.
Hardraade, did I NOT tell you two years go that this is exactly, exactly what obama was going to do? I didn’t even get one lousy detail wrong. LORD help us if he gets away with this.
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posted on
05/05/2011 7:39:25 AM PDT
by
MestaMachine
(If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
To: MestaMachine; All
Yep, you did. And I’m just about to actually publish Zawahri’s declaration from 2005. I’m putting up the smallest version which was on Al Jazeera, so it can be viewed directly instead of the half-gig hi-res version.
Just have to tidy up the place a little.
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posted on
05/05/2011 7:43:57 AM PDT
by
Hardraade
(I want gigaton warheads now!!)
To: MestaMachine
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posted on
05/05/2011 7:48:27 AM PDT
by
azishot
(Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
To: MestaMachine; butterdezillion; LucyT
And ALL this just happened when General "Patton-Trump" started shooting from the hips and still re-loading. Miss Tickley found some embarrassing details on the posted faked b.c. and LCMDR Fitzpatrick says the military personnel is starting to wake up and smell the coffee as brewing in the mornings???
Yes, I have posted earlier that deck of cards or the deck chairs are being reshuffled to CYA!!!
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posted on
05/05/2011 7:48:49 AM PDT
by
danamco
(-)
To: Hardraade
You know I almost swallowed my tongue when this abomiantion of a_resident stuck his face on MY TV and announced that HE had killed bin laden. The saudis are undermining that as we speak, but they can’t come right out with it and say that in deference to his father, a VERY wealthy, powerful man, they allowed, aided, and even covered up bin laden’s burial IN saudi arabia. He got a royal burial. Was ferried in on the royal’s own yacht. This must be giving them fits because they would like nothing better than to embarrass obama right now, but they can’t outright. HOWEVER, IF they can antagonize zawahiri enough, HE might come out with it. Oh, LORD, I pray.
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posted on
05/05/2011 7:53:45 AM PDT
by
MestaMachine
(If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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