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Official: Mortgage fraud 'is a ticking time bomb’
The Greensboro News-Recod ^ | 5/3/11 | Joe Killian

Posted on 05/03/2011 5:03:07 AM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Prokopton

While you are absolutely correct in your assessment, if you back up the whole issue another notch, you have the perpetrators of the problem, the banks and investment houses. Sure the homeowner has defaulted, but why? He bought a home at the going market price, and thanks to these scumsuckers, half the home’s value has been erased by their actions. There are people who have defaulted due to their personal economic circumstances (they no longer have the money to make their payments), but at least here in California, there are far more folks who have just quit paying because thanks to the banks destroying the marketplace, their home isn’t worth anywhere near what its mortgaged for. Sure, they could go on paying on the place, but that would be stupid because if they pay it off, only the bank will make out. So personally, I want to see the real guilty parties punished, the banks and investment houses.


21 posted on 05/03/2011 7:31:22 AM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Prokopton
“But there’s another problem, even for those who aren’t foreclosed,” Thigpen said. “When people try to get another loan or mortgage, what are the chances they’ll be approved when the fraud attached to a (borrower’s) previous loan comes out? It won’t be their fault, but they’ll pay for it.”

So who picks up the cost when the honest buyer tries to resell or refinance? Who pays the cost to clean the mess up made of the titles?
22 posted on 05/03/2011 7:36:09 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Prokopton
“But there’s another problem, even for those who aren’t foreclosed,” Thigpen said. “When people try to get another loan or mortgage, what are the chances they’ll be approved when the fraud attached to a (borrower’s) previous loan comes out? It won’t be their fault, but they’ll pay for it.”

So who picks up the cost when the honest buyer tries to resell or refinance? Who pays the cost to clean the mess up made of the titles?
23 posted on 05/03/2011 7:36:09 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: jurroppi1
“Ugh! I have a Wells Fargo mortgage (they bought it after we closed), so this makes me a little nervous.”

I would guess you will be just fine!
Don't fall for the hysterical stories out there.

24 posted on 05/03/2011 7:38:36 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: vette6387
While you are absolutely correct in your assessment, if you back up the whole issue another notch, you have the perpetrators of the problem, the banks and investment houses.

The actual perpetrators of the problem are our own U.S. Congress, led by people like Frank and Schumer, who forced on the banks regulations that required them to make bad loans. The market collapsed when there was no longer any way to hide the fact that these bad loans were in fact bad.

People signed a contract with banks promising to repay the amount borrowed. These contracts did not say that the borrowers would not have to make payments if the value of the home went down, just like banks could not ask to be paid more when the value of homes was skyrocketing. It might be "stupid" to pay on a contract that is no longer profitable, but I doubt the morality of walking away from a contract for this reason.

25 posted on 05/03/2011 7:59:16 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton
"It might be "stupid" to pay on a contract that is no longer profitable, but I doubt the morality of walking away from a contract for this reason."

That's another rub, people who walk away are dead beats, yet the banks who are walking away from millions in commerical property loans are???
26 posted on 05/03/2011 8:02:26 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; All
This is the current state of the Law in RI as of right now. JP Morgan cannot foreclose in RI without a written assignment from FDIC. Was appealed to Supreme Court a month ago. Appeal dismissed. Filed Motion to Reconsider, Motion for Relief Denied based on Law of the Case. Take your medicine banksters....

Diana vs. WAMU

$nip>

The Court: "Now I know that the, as you just said, counselor, the FDIC is dealing with hundreds or even thousands of these homes, but, the problem is, and I guess it's, at least it's been reported in the mass media, when all these houses are put into little bundles and little packages, individual home owners who do have property rights at stake here get lost in the shuffle or sometimes we could say they get crushed in the shuffle and so it is for that reason and I do not think that Soni is persuasive, but rather the two cases that I cited that the defendant's motion is denied."

WAMU (JPMorgue) Counsel: "Thank you, Judge."

$nip>

It's only an eight page read...but the JPM Counsel knew he was toast by page two. Judge basically dared him to go Federal -- which they did. And lost. And lost again.

Only one court left to appeal to. Think they'll do it?

27 posted on 05/03/2011 8:03:13 AM PDT by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: Chunga85
Take your medicine banksters....

And just what do you think this "medicine" should be?

28 posted on 05/03/2011 8:19:48 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Kartographer
banks who are walking away from millions in commerical property loans are???

What do you mean by, "banks who are walking away from millions in commerical property loans are???"?

29 posted on 05/03/2011 8:23:52 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

Are they ‘Dead Beats’?


30 posted on 05/03/2011 8:24:53 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Are they ‘Dead Beats’?

Are who dead beats? Why would a bank walk away from a loan after they had already borrowed the money unless there was no way they would be repaid and, in that case, they suffer the complete loss. Borrowers who walk away from a contract do it so they don't have to suffer the complete loss. Completely opposite.

31 posted on 05/03/2011 8:33:52 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton
What do you mean by, "banks who are walking away from millions in commerical property loans are???"?

The Mortgage Bankers Association strategically defaults on its loan after shaming homeowners who do the same.

Medicine?

A healthy RX of following the law.

32 posted on 05/03/2011 8:36:40 AM PDT by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: Prokopton

There are at present a good number of companies and banks defaulting on commercial properties are they ‘Dead Beats’?


33 posted on 05/03/2011 8:39:26 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Chunga85

EXCELLENT example Chunga!


34 posted on 05/03/2011 8:40:56 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
There are at present a good number of companies and banks defaulting on commercial properties are they ‘Dead Beats’?

I usually don't use the term "dead beat" when referring to people who don't pay their mortgage but, if a company doesn't make payments on a mortgage they contracted for, I put them in the same category as individuals who don't make payments on a mortgage they contracted for.

35 posted on 05/03/2011 8:53:17 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton
The actual perpetrators of the problem are our own U.S. Congress, led by people like Frank and Schumer, who forced on the banks regulations that required them to make bad loans.

Precisely!

36 posted on 05/03/2011 8:56:30 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Actual part of what happened is banks realized that they could make these loans and make money on the issuing of them and then when the buyers defaulted they get more money from the Government to cover their ‘losses’ and make more moeny in service fees handling the loan and the foreclosure! Nothing but win, win, win for them!!!


37 posted on 05/03/2011 9:20:26 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Lancey Howard
Lets not forget second term AZ. Rep Seel [R] who miraculously receives a 56% principal reduction two days before a vote on foreclosure related legislation.

SB 1259 | Now this is Getting Ridiculous – AZ Rep. Carl Seel Drops Amendment 2 Days After Servicer Grants 56% Principal Reduction

38 posted on 05/03/2011 10:09:05 AM PDT by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: Sawdring

There is a website where you can search for your address/name. I cannot find the link I used but I think you can find it here http://www.mersinc.org/


39 posted on 05/03/2011 10:17:56 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver; Sawdring

Here is where you can search to see if Fannie has your mortgage:

http://www.fanniemae.com/loanlookup/


40 posted on 05/03/2011 11:01:58 AM PDT by TruthConquers (.Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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