Posted on 04/30/2011 5:58:31 PM PDT by BerryDingle
Probably the most cogitative, accurate, detailed response on the war against Libya I have read to date.
The Obama Empire war machine goes into action for the illustrious Pirate in Chief.
The Rat lamented "Evil Empire" has become a self fulfilling prophecy.
We are so screwed.
As for doing something, I talk to everyone that I can, one on one, and the ignorance is startling and frightening. I constantly call and email the NBC (no balls congresscritters).
My husband lost a cousin in Afghanistan a couple of years ago. Sorry for your loss. What do we do about ignorant stupid people--the ones who elected Obama. They are the main problem--sheep following the bleating of the media. If the media had vetted the O he would have only gotten the black vote.
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There is no reason for this?? Has the foreign policy of the USA gone “mad”? We aren’t exactly fighting NAZI Germany here..
Ghadafi was hiding behind his own child and grandchildren...that’s the way they do it....should have used a bigger bomb......we killed no one, he did.
AS for the black vote he got - From what one of my sons, a long hauler who criss crosses the country up and down, back and forth, every week - and talking to black folk everywhere, he has lost a lot of them. They are disgusted.
And listen to THIS black leader - who has the ability to reach and influence millions of blacks - he lays obama out in lavender - and he says he will likely not get more than 70 of the black this time. That's a big drop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecdf4RSVe1Y
an interview with Laura Ingraham - she starts out a bit antagonistic to him, but she learns some things she was unaware of.
I'm still hanging on to hope - REAL hope.
For more on this man, here's a video of him telling “Call me senator” Boxer off royally. She's actually quite dismissive of him and treat him as though he's ignorant. Her mistake.
If anyone was killed at all. Whenever we do hit an important building in the Middle East, it's always somehow connected to small children or infants, like Saddam's baby formula factory.
With your blind and unthinking support of Hussein, you might very well say, “Barack Hussein Obama mmm mmm mmm.” This is a criminal war waged by the European socialists who want to grab others’ property and Hussein is helping them.
“So now suddenly were not afraid of offending Muslims?”
as long as it is muslims whose governments will be replaced by something more theological and even more anti-west. Rabidly anti-west governments (iran and syria) need not worry, this doesn’t apply to them. Pro-western governments (egypt) will be toppled as soon as possible to allow more radical groups into power. Apparently the saudis directly shielded baharain and their king was very annoyed at obama for actively lobbying for the ouster of mubarak.
in other words - us ally - obama tries to topple
non-us-ally that doesn’t like al qaeda, muslim brhd, etc., also try to get rid of
us enemy - no problem, won’t criticize even the most egregious actions against civilians.
Not directed at you, but a person has to be blind not to see the pattern here.
“Bush played hard ball and got him to give up his WMD’s and help with capturing and turning in Al Queda - who Qaddafi considers his deadly enemies too. Qaddafi was quiet and compliant compared to most of the ME countries over there. This is NOT the country we should be going into war with with all the real fires in the region.”
it isn’t accidental, obama is actively trying to topple regimes in the middle east that are adversarial towards radical islamic movements. the betrayal of mubarak is going to have serious and negative permanent implications for US relations and policy in the region no matter who is president next.
“a) Our leadership sucks.
b) It’s our(American’s) fault.”
the variable in the equation here is the influence the media has with a high % of the voting population. Many of us are very familiar with details of current events and politics (thanks to sites like this), and some others are howling at the moon and hating capitalism on DU, but an awful lot of folks are getting their news from networks, cnn, AP/NYT/gannett, and live in a world where all information is direct from the ministry of truth.
We aren’t going to turn the country into a fully-informed populace, so the media’s ability to mold public perception and opinion has been the trump card and continues to be.
It is a very serious structural problem to which I don’t see a likely positive resolution in a peacetime context.
WTH did you get that idea? What I think of him would get me banned from here.
Is there any doubt that a republican would have been called a war criminal for this? I don’t really give a crap about Libya, but it does boggle the mind that Obama got a peace prize and Bush got 7 years of peace protestors and a 24/7 negative news cycle to go with it.
This makes me ill.
The “North Atlantic” Treaty Organization - keeping Islam secure from Southern Europe to North Africa. An institution which has outlived its usefulness.
This is a war crime. Where are all the leftists who usually scream about such things from the Criminal Court of the Hague?
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The same place they were when Clinton murdered the janitor at the Sudanese aspirin factory. The New World Order - foaled by a voodoo Republican, ridden by the Utopian Internationale.
“it isnt accidental, obama is actively trying to topple regimes in the middle east that are adversarial towards radical islamic movements. the betrayal of mubarak is going to have serious and negative permanent implications for US relations and policy in the region no matter who is president next.”
Precisely. The absolute silence when the Iranian government was slaughtering the Iranian civilians in the street proves it. The United States under the Barrack Hussein Obama administration favors whichever is the most retrograde, violent Islam faction in any intra-Islamic conflict, anywhere. So simple even a community organizer can understand it. Confuses the hell out of neo-cons though.
I wonder if Michelle is proud of her America tonight?
Actually, and it is a long time ago, and I'm only relying on my memory, but Sunday TImes published a series of articles showing that it was Syria (possibly in collusion with Iran) that had perpetrated the bombing of PanAm103.
For a while there Syria was in the haircross, but then Syria became a valued ally in the first Gulf war, and soon after Bush Sr (and State) decided to make history with yet another failed Middle East peace plan - the Madrid meeting. And suddenly, no more mention of Syrian involvement in Lockerbie - it was all Libya and Qadafhi.
What a surprise!
(Sorry for the long quote that follows, but it is worth reading I think.)
In the first three years following the bombing, before a shred of evidence had been produced to incriminate Libya, the Dumfries and Galloway police, the FBI and several other intelligence services around the world all shared the belief that the Lockerbie bombers belonged to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine General Command (PFLP-GC), a Palestinian rejectionist organisation backed by Iran. The PFLP-GC is headed by Ahmed Jibril, a former Syrian army captain; its headquarters are in Damascus and it is closely allied with the Syrian president and other senior Syrian officials. In the 1970s and 1980s the PFLP-GC carried out a number of raids against Israel, including a novel hang-glider assault launched from inside Lebanon. Lawyers, intelligence services and diplomats around the world continue to suspect that Jibril who has even boasted that he is responsible was behind Lockerbie.
The case against Jibril and his gang is well established. It runs like this: in July 1988, five months before the Lockerbie bombing, a US naval commander aboard USS Vincennes in the Persian Gulf shot down an Iranian airbus, apparently mistaking it for an attacker. On board Iran Air Flight 655 were 270 pilgrims en route to Mecca. Ayatollah Khomeini vowed the skies would rain blood in revenge and offered a $10 million reward to anyone who obtained justice for Iran. The suggestion is that the PFLP-GC was commissioned to undertake a retaliatory bombing. Other evidence has emerged showing that the bomb could have been placed on the plane at Frankfurt airport, a possibility that the prosecution in al-Megrahis trial consistently ruled out (their case depended on the suitcase containing the bomb having been transferred from a connecting flight from Malta). Most significantly, German federal police have provided financial records showing that on 23 December 1988, two days after the bombing, the Iranian government deposited £5.9 million into a Swiss bank account that belonged to the arrested members of the PFLP-GC.
The decision to steer the investigation away from the PFLP-GC and in the direction of Libya came in the run-up to the first Gulf War, as America was looking to rally a coalition to liberate Kuwait and was calling for support from Iran and Syria. Syria subsequently joined the UN forces. Quietly, the evidence incriminating Jibril, so painstakingly sifted from the debris, was binned.
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