Posted on 04/28/2011 10:23:14 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
It was just like Obama lobbying for the Chicago Olympics. Epic fail.
I wonder if the engines for the Indian war ships are still on hold? Obama seemed to not want to send them and perhaps the Indians saw the writing on the wall.
I think there is some overflow concerning Obama’s willingness to stop the sale of those garden variety marine engines to India.
does the fact that both aircraft (f-16 and f-18) were designed in the late 60’s and early 70’s come into play???
Nope, that was essentially a bureaucratic review which was blown out of proportion by the media and other usual supporters (read Russian/Euro lobbies).
The Super Hornet is a much newer aircraft; in terms of age, its newer than the Rafale and the Eurofighter. If anything the US products are more mature and less expensive.
I think the issue was one of growth potential as well as possible technology restrictions. The F-35 will replace the F-16 and the Super Hornet was newer very agile in the first place. There’s plenty on FR about it.
Thanks, I did not know that they had been ok’d to receive the engines. It seemed a bit overblown but I couldn’t tell whether it was the press or the beaurocracy that was over blowing it.
When you refer to the agility of the SuperHornet, are you referring to the “wing drop” problem?
Super Hornet and F-35 are both whizzy on electronics,, but slow in both to speed and acceleration. Original F/A 18 can out turn, out run, and run a super hornet out of gas. Considering that India might need to defeat hot rods from Russia, its always nice to be fastest,,, lets you decide when the fight is over.
Electronics can be installed on a fast airframe,,, and that fast approaching day us when not to be in an F-35 or a super hornet. Both planes are nothing more than a statement that we are willing to coast on the skill of our pilots,,,, but the machines are slow.
Nope, I think that’s fixed. The usual complaints against the type has to do with its turn rate and transonic acceleration. There have been many discussions on that on FR itself.
’ We offered the IAF a fully compliant and best value multirole aircraft for the defined mission’
Translation,,,, we offered them Ford Tauruses,, and they are now debating between a 5 series BMW and a mid size Lexus,,,,, as we stand there complaining that they aren’t respecting our alliance by buying the adequate Taurus.
good point about technology restrictions, France was very willing to fall with Brazil in that arena.
And what happens when China balks at Europe and threatens some action if the sale of Eurofighters goes through?
Once again Sarkosy brings home the bacon to Paris. Would that Obama was as good a salesman.
Worst case scenario, the Europeans react the way the US has with Taiwan’s request for F-16s.
Or realistically, the Chinese will push harder for the lifting of the EU arms embargo. Like they did with demanding Russia supply more advanced equipment.
India disses and backstabs the US at BRICS meetings. I am not surprised.They sided with the soviets in the cold war and they have a ton of muslims in their population. Enjoy your euro planes. If china takes more of your territory and kicks your ass again go ask them for help. The US is tired of the world and its double standards against us.
Yawn and what exactly is BRICS-a term coined by an journalist? About backstabbing the US, US allies such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are doing a great job at that. Not much India or anyone else can contribute to that.
If China takes US weaponry sold to Pakistan, like they have been doing, who does Washington go to??
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