Of course, they could just release the long form, but so far that doesn't seem to be an option.
I wonder why?
It’s more than just a distraction, because if Hussein is a usurper, then he has forfeited his right to any power, and the people are absolved of any duty to obey.
Not a problem. Just have bwana obama show us his birth certificate, and it immediately becomes yesterday’s news, right? Unless..
And while we’re on the subject, many Americans are APPALLED it doesn’t concern any of you at the white house that Mr. obama has spent millions of $ keeping that information from us. There’s plenty of appall-worthy matters to go around, wouldn’t you say, Mr. Carney?
I don’t understand why the press doesn’t laugh at the “distraction” argument. What, people talking about a birth certificate somehow keeps Obama from doing his job? Moreso than playing Golf dozens of times a year?
How is it a “distraction”? Wasn’t having to write a proclamation for obscure muslim holidays more of a distraction than saying “no comment” to a question?
I am appalled, he should just show us all the real BC and put out his school transcripts and it would all be over, unless....
The following is a combination of three posts I just made on another thread, with the same topic. Ok lets shoot the logic down. Knock some holes in it folks!!!:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=43#43
I am going to address something that Carney and Anderson Cooper et al gloss over. Yes, the COLB can be used for most things like getting a drivers license (Yo, Carney, a DL is NOT acceptable ID for Proving one is a Natural Born Citizen... duh). HOWEVER, there are instances in which a Long form is NECESSARY.
One instance where it is necessary is in establishing Genealogy.
Another is when it is necessary to look at the Parents place of Birth!!! That is important!!!!! Why? Because Obama’s father is British, so under the section of Parents place of Birth (”If not in U.S.A. Name Country” Boxes 6c and 8c On the Hawaiian Certificate of Live birth the name of the Long form in 1969), Obama’s father is listed as having been born in Kenya - a British commonwealth.
What is the significance of that?
Well, golly, just that it PROVES that Obama was NOT born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States - Is not a Natural Born Citizen because he was born under the jurisdiction of TWO nations. In the debates on the 14th Amendment, the Honorable John Bingham deliberately stated, and was unchallenged on defining a Natural Born Citizenship as having been born under the Sole Jurisdiction of the United States!
Remember, it is the SHORT FORM which is Prima Facie evidence, it serves in a court of law. Yet, it does NOT contain the information absolutely NECESSARY in determining Natural Born Citizenship!!! The evidence of Barack being born under two Jurisdictions has NOT been presented as Prima Facie Evidence!!! It is legally UNPROVEN!!
Is THIS why Obama refuses to provide it? Because once he does.... the two jurisdictions issue is literally out of the bag... and public evidence! It also proves him to be an usurper.
Barack Obama’s continued pretense in the Oval Office is 100% dependent on keeping his original Long Form Birth Certificate unpublished and unreleased! That is pure insanity.
Now, that Prima Facie evidence, the Short Form COLB only includes certain details, and does NOT include Parents Birthplace. In the case of determining Natural Born Citizenship, THE PARENTS BIRTH PLACE MUST BE KNOWN. Once it is, Obama has nothing to hide behind.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=45#45
See post 43. It does not prove Obama a Natural Born Citizen because it does not list the birthplace of his parents.
Natural Born Citizenship is as dependent on the Parents Citizenship as it is the place of birth. Both MUST be citizens. Otherwise the child inherits the citizenship of the foreign parent, particularly when its Daddys citizenship!
Yea... the more I think about it, the more this makes sense. As long as the information which GENERATED the COLB is unpublished and formally unknown, it isnt evidence. It could be just that simple. By relying on the COLB, it continues to successfully prevent the legal declaration that his father was British, because until it is released, it is legal hearsay?? Is that it? Could it be that simple?
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=50#50
True enough. The Short form doesnt show the location of the PARENTS birth! That is as ESSENTIAL in determining Natural Born Citizenship as the location of the childs birth!!!!!
A COLB doesnt have that information does it? So the Prima Facie evidence Obama points at, doesnt prove he is a Natural Born Citizen. It proves he has Hawaiian documents. Thats it. Only the document which GENERATED that COLB has the information needed to determine Natural Born Citizenship and that is PRECISELY what Obama does NOT want to talk about, because one MUST have two parents who are citizens at the time of birth, otherwise the child inherits that foreign Parents Nationality, particularly Daddys Nationality.
Obama REALLY does NOT want to be talking about that!
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2710803/posts?page=53#53
Read post 43. It might just be this simple. The Prima Facie evidence Obama points to does NOT have the information necessary to proving Natural Born Citizenship. This REQUIRES knowing the Parents place of birth.
Obama inherited his fathers British Nationality at birth. He states he was born under the British Nationality Act of 1948, but that is hearsay until proven by a factual document, such as a Certificate of Live Birth (long form) which the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB Short Form) does NOT have.
Maybe it really is just that simple. By presenting Prima Facie evidence, he can legally say he has Hawaiian Documents. However, sometimes you have to know what generated that COLB, and 100% of the time in determining Citizenship, it is required to establish genealogy. In fact, if Obama presented the Long Form to the British Consulate, he could claim his British Citizenship, and get a British Passport. GUARANTEED. He wouldnt even need to apply for it, just present his Long Form.
Maybe that is literally all that the cretin is hiding, certainly from a legal standpoint it makes sense. Obama, the Constitutional professor would have been familiar with the debates on the 14th Amendment... in which the primary author John Bingham of Ohio states unequivocally and with out challenge, that a Natural Born Citizen is one born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States. So he hides the evidence of his dual jurisdictional Birth. The COLB does not give the information NECESSARY to determine his Natural Born Status, and maybe THAT is why it has been shoved down everyones throat, and why he refuses to release the thing.
It might just be that simple.
This is a distraction. The President has a full schedule of golf this weekend followed by a week of fundraising.
Since when has this Whitehouse given a hoot about current issues?
They have entered with an Anti-American agenda and this distraction is messing with it. Of course they are ticked.
Bttt.
His upbringing, his schooling, his mentors, and his record (including interviews he has held in the past) all confirm this and all need to be continually trumpeted as more and more people recognize the folly and danger he represents as a result of hois record as President...all of which was obvious to anyone who took the time to look and investigate back in 2007-2008.
The Audacity of Truth: Obama in his own words
The Audactiy of Truth: Obama's Upbringing
The Audactiy of Truth: Obama's Circle of Friends
The Audactiy of Truth: Obama and Black Liberation Theology
Sounds like "The One" is feeling a little bit testy. Maybe he better pick up the ciggybutt habit again. Calm his nerves. Keep up the pressure Donld.
We should be appalled because the so called president won’t verify his identity. I can assure you Mr. .carney that I am no lunatic. I work with educated professionals - some voted for obama - and they are asking why he’s hiding his records.
Tell that jerk Carney to get Obama to show the long form birth certificate and we will shut up and start impeachment and removal of Obama!!!!! I despise everything that the Democrats stand for now!
Plenty of good issues on which to defeat Barack Obama. But his birth certificate isn’t one of them.
What is amazing about this issue is that Obama is really hiding something that is butt ugly. Not that he was born in Kenya but more like his Daddy is not who he says he is and his name is not Obama. Or maybe it does report his religion as Muslim - how hilarious would that be! Or any number of hideous things from which he may be trying to protect his kids - but that’s too bad and I blame the press for letting him hide this as well as his school records. He is in politics, just like Obama got Senate candidate Jack Ryan’s divorce papers opened up to show that he was at sex clubs with his wife and thereby leave the race - so what is good for the goose is good for the gander. The liberal judge in California acknowledged the decree was sealed but he opened it anyway and said to Ryan -’you are in politics, and the people have a right to know.’ Well Barack, you are in politics and the people have a right to know. Let us see your college transcripts and let us see your birth certificate. The people have a right to know.
So true. That’s all they have to do; but they haven’t so something is going on.
This is the the most whiney thin-skinned administration in US history.
“It’s an unfortunate distraction from the issues that I think most Americans care about,”
He’s right: I want to know WHEN WILL YOU BALANCE THE BUDGET?
(crickets)
“Care to ask another birther question instead?”
WH calls questions on Obama birthplace distraction
The White House says questions about President Barack Obama’s birth certificate are an unfortunate distraction when so many other serious issues like high gas prices are bedeviling the country.
Press Secretary Jay Carney said in response to a reporter’s questions Tuesday that most Americans “would be appalled” that White House officials are spending any time discussing Obama’s birth certificate given numerous other problems to contend with.