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Donald Trump's plan to lower $4-a-gallon gas prices
CS Monitor ^ | 04/25/11 | Peter Grier

Posted on 04/25/2011 2:56:32 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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“Trump is correct and any poll taken will agree with him on Iraq. That the USA and USA oil compnaies should have gotten preferential consideration. It is an absolute disgrace we let the Chinese national oil company hijack what is rightfully ours. You know the Chinese do oil exploration and development in Iran and buy lots of oil from the them. Being in Iraq fits in great with that scheme

The Chinese are smarter than you. They believe in acting in their national self interest in Iraq. While you deny that to America that has spent trillions there with thousand of war dead too. China knows how the pay the geopolitical power game. You are oblivious of this because you naively worship free markets. The ChiComs do not worship free markets. They only exploit and use them when they are useful to China.”

We will never recognize that until a president is elected with the fortitude to deal them the same hand.

61 posted on 04/26/2011 11:47:48 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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“I wish you would learn to put the comments you are responding to either in Italics and quotes or at least Italics, to differentiate them from the comments you are adding.

When you don’t, the comments of someone else, the comments you are responding to, appear to third parties as if they are your own comments.”

How about the Quote or Speech marks ,I have been using?

62 posted on 04/26/2011 11:51:20 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: dennisw

“The Chinese are smarter than you. They believe in acting in their national self interest in Iraq.”

The Chinese economic model is a modern day version of the mercantilists; the system of the imperial economics and state economic preferences we have worked against in international trade for 200+ years.

No, we should not join them in that model; but first we need to start to restrict the foreign businesses that benefit from it from participating in OUR domestic economic sphere and then start impinging on it our international trade negotiations and our own import restrictions. We still have the worlds largest economy and are still the world’s largest buyer of the world’s goods. We can affect the mercantilist mentality by gradually shutting it out of our economy.


63 posted on 04/27/2011 12:51:57 PM PDT by Wuli
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“Trump is correct and any poll taken will agree with him on Iraq.”

Since when did a poll result represent a rational argument?

Many polls showed “the birthers” were extremely popular and in agreement with Trump. Today he was proven wrong. Was his argument rational, or was it just “popular”.

Yes, it may be a “popular” idea, by some ways of asking the question. that the people of Iraq ought to pay us back for the war. Is it rational?

If it’s rational, then the French, the Dutch, and the British at a minimum - if not most of western Europe and possibly even Japan, “owed” us for saving everybody in WWII; during a time in which our national debt reached heights not seen until recently. Or maybe South Korea should be still “paying us back” for saving them from the North Korean dictators. Apparently more rational minds stemmed such “popular” notions in the aftermath of those wars. Hopefully today’s policy makers will do the same.

Whenever we do go to war, we do so, or we better be doing so, for reasons of our own national interest. If it is in our national interest, and when it is in our national interest, and even when the result has “liberated” a people, we did not go to war with the notion that they would pay for our doing what we thought was in our national interest.

We do not “need” “cheap” oil from Iraq. taken from Iraq at the point of a gun to solve our domestic energy issues. We have enough access to energy resources, here and abroad; we only need a White House and a Congress that will let our oil and gas suppliers do what they need to do, what they can do.

Getting ‘cheap oil’ from Iraq is a populist side issue and not a rational approach to long term solutions. Unfortunately that is a good deal of what Mr. Trump is about.


64 posted on 04/27/2011 1:13:55 PM PDT by Wuli
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