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Insurance Companies Shed Light on Extent of Sex Abuse in Protestant Churches
ethics daily ^ | July 6, 2007 | Bob Allen

Posted on 04/20/2011 11:01:34 AM PDT by bronxville

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To: Hans
What about child abuse by executives of Insurance Companies? What about child abuse by lawyers, interested? What about child abuse by workers in NGO’s? What about child abuse by Federal Trough Feeders?

And TSA airport screeners?

21 posted on 04/20/2011 11:31:44 AM PDT by Faith
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To: AU72

And there are certain posters here who are aiding and abetting the Marxists. Click the link in post #2.


22 posted on 04/20/2011 11:32:47 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: bronxville

As I said before, it doesn’t matter who is doing it, it is pure evil and should be treated as such.


23 posted on 04/20/2011 11:34:04 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: bronxville
And there are certain posters here who are aiding and abetting the Marxists.

And they own the religion forum.

24 posted on 04/20/2011 11:36:50 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: bronxville
Bit less than 1/4 the "rate".

Depends on how you talk about these numbers ~ obviously Catholics are a minority religion in America. At the same time there's no particular majority religion, and Protestants move around all the time making it somewhat difficult to count.

I think what we need to know is if these insurance claims are made against any particular denomination, e.g. Episcopalean, Universalists, Unitarians, or other likely target (with money in the bank).

25 posted on 04/20/2011 11:41:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Perhaps you could click the link in post #2 and let them know. Thanks.


26 posted on 04/20/2011 11:41:39 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: bronxville

Non-Catholic organizations may be worse, but that does not excuse the molester-enabling actions of gay-friendly bishops and JP2. It will be a travesty if JP2 goes beyond the beatification stage to receive full sainthood.


27 posted on 04/20/2011 11:44:35 AM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Facts are stubborn things.


28 posted on 04/20/2011 11:45:30 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: bronxville

Not sure what you mean. I saw that thread and it was a horrible situation the way it looked.
It looks like it went on way too long and there was a complete lack of oversight.

Again some people need a bullet.


29 posted on 04/20/2011 11:48:38 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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To: notaliberal

I am not a Catholic hater, here comes the but, this sounds too much like, “Johnny did it TOO”.

Look, throw all these perverts in prison whether Protestant Catholic or Muslim. The Catholic Church can’t absolve themselves by smearing others. The Catholic Church has a LONG history of abuse by priests and WORSE, of covering it up and just moving priests to new locations so they could abuse new unsuspecting kids. Kicking the pervert down the road, so to speak.

This dog won’t hunt. Father Morris should have steered clear of this discussion. He will make no friends saying that Protestants do it too.

“I only beat my wife 2 times a week and they beat their wives 5 times a week. See, I’m not so bad after all”.

Shine the light on all of them, I say. Don’t try to make yourselves look better by saying “but everybody does it”.


30 posted on 04/20/2011 11:48:55 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: buccaneer81

It appears that way buccaneer but one gets tired of seeing two posts here during Lental season about Catholics and pedophilia within 24hrs. (and in reality it’s really about homosexual-pedophilia which the state-controlled media will never print.)

Police seize videotape alleged to show sex with child
Keri Kirby / The Times
Posted on July 17, 2003
The Ringgold pastor arrested Tuesday for allegedly exposing himself to children in a Bossier City park over the past several months now also stands accused of having sex with a girl to whom he is related and recording the acts on videotape.
http://www.reformation.com/CSA/thomas4.htm

Sex Offender and Sex Crime News
Convicted sex offender removed as pastor of Newark church
2003-05-07 Newsday

NEWARK, N.J. — A convicted sex offender who was named pastor of a city church several weeks ago has been removed from the post.

Shiloh Baptist Church leaders had hired the Rev. Chavalis T. Williams in mid-March, even though they knew he had pleaded guilty in Florida to charges of child abuse and using children in a sexual performance.

Williams, who still lives in Florida, was not immediately available for comment. He was sentenced to six months in jail and 30 months probation after he admitted in 1999 that he had arranged for two teenagers to have sex in front of him and others while he worked at a facility for troubled youths in Jacksonville.

At the time of his arrest, Williams was on probation after pleading guilty to a wife beating charge.
http://www.reformation.com/CSA/williams2.htm

Minister again charged with molestation
Tuesday, February 11, 2003
By Chris Hack
Staff writer

For the second time in two weeks, a Baptist pastor from New Lenox has been charged with molesting a child — and prosecutors said they are looking for more victims.
Dennis Larry Shaw, 53, of the 2100 block of Sanford Drive, New Lenox, was charged Monday with aggravated criminal sexual abuse of a 16-year-old girl, according to the Will County state’s attorney’s office.

On Jan. 31, Shaw was arrested on similar charges after a parishioner’s 12-year-old daughter alleged she was fondled by the pastor inside the church between October and December, prosecutors said.
http://www.reformation.com/CSA/Shaw1.htm
Lots more here -
http://www.reformation.com/CSA/baptistsabuse.html
...and here
http://www.cin.org/users/msmith/reformation/baptistsabuse.html

Catholic Clergy Singled Out Says Historian -
...”The Catholics have gotten all the attention from the media, but this problem is even greater with the Protestant churches simply because of their far larger numbers,” he says....
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0405/p01s01-ussc.html

Georgia Pastor charged with sexually abusing 5 year old boy has long criminal record, including child molestation and child battery...
Saturday, January 9, 2010 at 12:40PM
http://www.perrybulwer.com/religion-and-child-abuse-news/2010/1/9/georgia-pastor-charged-with-sexually-abusing-5-year-old-boy.html

Former youth pastor arrested again
Updated: Monday, 24 Aug 2009, 6:09 PM EDT
Published : Monday, 24 Aug 2009, 4:45 PM EDT
Katie Collett
YORK COUNTY, Va. - Sergeant Dennis Ivey of the York-Poquoson Sheriff’s Office tells WAVY.com Jack Duffer was arrested for the second time in two weeks. Ivey says Duffer was arrested Friday after a second teenager in two weeks came forward saying the former youth pastor had sexual contact with her in two different areas of York County.

Ivey says Duffer faces 34 sex-related charges in connection with Friday’s arrest and two charges from his prior arrest. While detectives work to find out if there are anymore alleged victims, the Seaford Baptist Church community prays for strength.
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/local_wavy_yorkcounty_youth_pastor_jailed_again_20090824

Lots within the link -
http://www.reformation.com/CSA/startPage.html

More -
http://www.wkbt.com/Global/story.asp?s=6013245

This one popped up - a long thread - no time to read it...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1850676/posts

“This little light of mine (by a Protestant Pastor)...
I’m gonna let it shine”

This “little light” shines for the many clergy abuse victims whose voices have been silenced. Silenced by shame. Silenced by the false instruction of religious leaders. Silenced by church shunning and bullying. Silenced by church contracts for secrecy. Silenced by suicide. The mission of StopBaptistPredators.org is to break the silence of Baptist clergy sex abuse.

Lots more within the link -
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/index.htm

It appears to be a continuing theme, in that, it’s very difficult to trace Protestant Pastor Child Molestors...lots more out there.


31 posted on 04/20/2011 11:48:55 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: goodnesswins

“What about child abuse at the hands of “teachers?”

Let’s see THOSE numbers!


32 posted on 04/20/2011 11:52:26 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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The Southern Baptist Convention’s Unconvincing Claims as to Why It Cannot Effectively Report or Prevent Clergy Child Abuse – and How Insurance Companies Can Exert Pressure to Ensure Better Systems

By MARCI HAMILTON

Thursday, Jun. 12, 2008

The Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) has recently proven why it is that children are at risk for sexual abuse in our society: It’s easier not to protect them, and especially easy to issue ineffectual platitudes while looking the other way.

According to the Associated Press, the SBC has concluded that its decentralized structure of independent churches makes it impossible for it to establish a website of pastors credibly accused of child sexual abuse, or even to require the reporting of such crimes to the police. Yes, you read that right: The SBC is citing these lame procedural reasons for not taking the most basic steps to protect children from devastating abuse that can have repercussions that leave victims suffering for a lifetime (and that severely taxes society in medical and other resources).

In this column, I’ll rebut the Convention’s claims that policing and reporting abuse is an impossible task to put on its shoulders, and also describe how change in this quarter needs to come from what may seem like an unlikely source: the insurance industry.
[...]
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hamilton/20080612.html

This Protestant Pastor disagrees with you. He also believes Child Molestations by Pastors are being covered up.


33 posted on 04/20/2011 11:55:00 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: bronxville

They need to do a report on public schools, seems more widespread than any church


34 posted on 04/20/2011 11:55:18 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: faucetman

I read where a representative from the Education Department stated they expected the numbers to go as high as 10% this year. The state-controlled media will never cover it. Will look for the link later as I’m doing other things besides responding here at the moment.


35 posted on 04/20/2011 11:58:01 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: faucetman

You miss the point!!! Has nothing to do with “johnny did it too”.The point I was making is that there are many on this site that make it a point to bash Catholics. I don’t see them posting on this thread. You never see those bashers posted on a thread like this.

I’m not excusing any perverted actions, no matter who does it! Got it?


36 posted on 04/20/2011 11:59:19 AM PDT by notaliberal
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To: bronxville

Obviously, the protestants aren’t as good at hiding their sins as are the catholics.


37 posted on 04/20/2011 11:59:45 AM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: GeronL

Yes, someone has the numbers which by all accounts are extremely high.


38 posted on 04/20/2011 12:00:13 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: bronxville
BTTT Bronxville.

And for you "critics," no one is saying it's okay that some priests abused children because Protestants do it, too. All we're saying is the media coverage of abuse by Catholic priests is grossly disproportionate and displays their bias.

39 posted on 04/20/2011 12:02:31 PM PDT by d-back
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To: upsdriver

You meant that the other way around, right? If not you haven’t read from the links provided nor the more recent where a Protestant Pastor states categorically that there are a lot more but are being covered up.


40 posted on 04/20/2011 12:06:27 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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