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Duck, It’s the Donald! Why Desperate Republicans Should NOT Take Trump Seriously.
National Review ^ | 04/20/2011 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 04/20/2011 10:42:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: mquinn

I would support ANYBODY against Obama, If Trump gets the nomination - are you going to vote for Obama or will you stay home and let Obama win again ?


21 posted on 04/20/2011 11:25:36 AM PDT by PMAS
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To: muddler

I don’t know that Trump strikes fear in the heart of the GOP — however you define that. As a tea party type who is registered R, I really love what Trump is doing. I love the boldness. I love the pro American stance and unabashed love of country. I love that he has Obama flustered. I don’t fear it at all.

I just have a hard time swallowing the support for universal health care, for big labor, for Chuck Schumer, for the crony capitalism he has practiced for decades, and the naivete that all of our problems can be solved by him negotiating with OPEC or China or whomever. Most of our problems are caused by our own big government, and Trump is a big government guy and a fan of big biz jumping into bed with that big government. It is what it is. And he loves reaching across the aisle in his own words THIS WEEK.

But I am thoroughly enjoying what he’s doing and support it.


22 posted on 04/20/2011 11:25:50 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: SeekAndFind

Agree 100% Been posting that myself.

I doubt he will even officially register with the FEC to run.


23 posted on 04/20/2011 11:26:44 AM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: TShaunK

He has done what no one else has, taken on their MSM machine. The Media spin and organized attacks is the main reason Obama won.


24 posted on 04/20/2011 11:35:50 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: PMAS; mquinn

RE: If Trump gets the nomination - are you going to vote for Obama or will you stay home and let Obama win again ?


The first thing to do is to make sure TRUMP is NOT the Republican nominee.

Let’s say worse comes to worse, he gets the nomination...

The only other alternative is to make sure Congress AND the Senate gets Tea Party Republcians. That should give Trump some pause reagrding Canadian or British style Universal Healthcare.

At least, a Tea Party Congress WILL NOT MAKE a law that gives a President Trump that kind of a bill.

Maybe (just maybe) Trump will be more sensible and accomodating to a GOP Congress than Obama on healthcare.


25 posted on 04/20/2011 11:41:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Jonas is missing the point.

The issues Trump raises are very important.

It’s Trump himself we don’t take seriously.


26 posted on 04/20/2011 11:56:29 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Throw away your papers, blow up your TV...and set yourself free.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Jonah Goldberg is another castrated writer, this little crappy article is a waste of time. NRO is just OK mainly because Andy McCarthy and Mark Steyn still publish there!


28 posted on 04/20/2011 12:01:33 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: SeekAndFind
So Trump won't undo Obamacare? I guess that makes him...a mainstream Republican.
29 posted on 04/20/2011 12:06:25 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

We should be more concerned that the Liberal Media and the GOP Media are both working together to discredit Trump

When you have Mark Lah-vin using the same talking points as the Liberal Media to discredit Trump....that should tell you that the problem is not Trump

Of course, there would not be this much attack on Trump from both the Liberal Media and the GOP Media if it was not for the GOP actively helping Obama’s 2012 campaign by attacking those who want answers to Obama Eligibility


31 posted on 04/20/2011 12:14:38 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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To: muddler

Trump strikes fear in the hearts of dems and the gop, very interesting.


Interesting, is that Jonah Goldberg is agreeing with his “Liberal Fascists” in regard to Trump

The attacks on Trump by the left and right should tell you that the right is not really right...and incorrect, too


32 posted on 04/20/2011 12:16:50 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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To: SeekAndFind
National Review doesn't have a very good track record lately--I think in 2008 they were pushing Mitt's candidacy. But Jonah makes some good points.

The problem with billionaires like Trump is they can spend as much money as they want on an ego-trip like running for President. Trump will have no trouble saying he is dissatisfied with the nominee (if it isn't himself) and running as an independent. The votes he gets will be at the expense of the Republican nominee.

33 posted on 04/20/2011 12:26:20 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SeekAndFind

H. Ross Trump to me. He is a disaster.

BTW, I think that Jonah missed the point that both reviews of Eau de Trompe are tongue in cheek. (Notice neither is certified as an actual purchaser of the product from Amazon.) They didn’t quite overegg the pudding enough to make it obvious. I would have liked it if the woman who got the tip on it from the stockboy at Toys R Us had said, instead of, ‘now I’m buying him another bottle’, ‘why do you think a year later we’re having another kid?’. Anyway, I’m sure Freepers can do better.


34 posted on 04/20/2011 12:26:51 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: BigAl22
Trump has taken on the progressive machine. There are many anti-American forces behind this administration. Obama is just the logo.

Trump gets this. I have read all of the concerns, but we are in different times. These guys are playing for keeps. Take down the glue of the US. Bring in new global powers. The R2P with Libya illustrates how far they have made inroads. Our resources pledged to foreign counties without any representation.

35 posted on 04/20/2011 12:34:54 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: mquinn

“We must have universal healthcare,” wrote Trump. “I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses.”

- http://www.slate.com/id/2291263/


No fan of universal health care....it does not work

However, Trump is candid about his views.

Unlike the GOP RINO and GOP Media Chosen One....Mitt Romney....who now denies that the Universal Health Care he pushed in Massachusetts is “Universal Health Care” and that it is different than Obama’s “Universal Health Care”....even though Mitt did not sign “Universal Health Care”

People dissing Trump are going to give the GOP Mitt Romney...and Barack Obama


36 posted on 04/20/2011 12:38:20 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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To: Verginius Rufus

“The problem with billionaires like Trump is they can spend as much money as they want on an ego-trip like running for President. Trump will have no trouble saying he is dissatisfied with the nominee (if it isn’t himself) and running as an independent. The votes he gets will be at the expense of the Republican nominee. “

For what it’s worth, he’s repeatedly stated publicly that if it were the case where that would split the vote and re-elect the current place-holder he wouldn’t. He’s well aware of what happened with Perot.


37 posted on 04/20/2011 12:45:44 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: OldNewYork
Of course Trump doesn't want Republican primary voters to think he'll be a bad sport if he loses, but his answers in one interview where I saw him being questioned were not dogmatic. He seemed to be leaving open the possibility, just not saying he definitely would run (which would be a self-defeating thing to say at this time).

It's hard for me to imagine Trump thinking that someone else is better qualified than himself to be the nominee.

38 posted on 04/20/2011 2:00:21 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

It’s not easy for me to imagine either. His success in large part has been from being self-motivated. I did get the impression he meant it though, that he’d rather watch someone he thought was less suited than himself win as a Republican while he stewed, than watch the place-holder get in again. As with most things, time will tell.


40 posted on 04/20/2011 2:23:20 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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