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Chaos on House floor as Democrats try to unsettle GOP budget
The Hill ^
| 04/15/11
| Pete Kasperowicz
Posted on 04/15/2011 1:23:24 PM PDT by Monitor
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To: so_real
Off the cuff, though, would passing something "more conservative" have been a bad thing? Uhm...NO. Not in a SANE world.
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posted on
04/15/2011 2:49:16 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(If you don't see a leader, be a leader.)
To: so_real
By the way, you’ll know they’re serious about the budget when the first criteria on every item is constitutionality...in other words, does it fall within Congress’ Enumerated Powers?
Until then, it’s mostly smoke and mirrors.
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posted on
04/15/2011 2:58:57 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(If you don't see a leader, be a leader.)
To: NWFLConservative
As far as I am concerned, if vote present on ANYTHING, you should lose your vote. Plain and simple, end of story.
That is all Obama ever did in the Illinois senate and a lot in the US Senate too.
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posted on
04/15/2011 3:15:34 PM PDT
by
Don Corleone
("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
To: All
Question for my fellow Freepers. Does CSPAN edit their videos? Because I went to their site as I wanted to see video of this 'chaos' and there is roughly 1 hour of their 6 hour House floor coverage missing. It stops as the RSC budget is being debated and when the video comes back it's Ryan's budget being debated. Also on the House website I don't see the roll call vote for the RSC budget. Was it a voice vote or a recorded one? I'd like to know which Republicans voted for it. Anyway I find it strange that 1 hour of video is missing from CSPAN's site.
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posted on
04/15/2011 3:50:04 PM PDT
by
ejdrapes
(Donald Trump calls George W Bush "evil": http://tinyurl.com/3bej26r)
To: ejdrapes
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posted on
04/15/2011 3:51:17 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(If you don't see a leader, be a leader.)
To: ejdrapes
Maybe Boehner threatened to pull their plug.
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posted on
04/15/2011 3:52:06 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(If you don't see a leader, be a leader.)
To: EternalVigilance; All
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posted on
04/15/2011 3:53:40 PM PDT
by
ejdrapes
(Donald Trump calls George W Bush "evil": http://tinyurl.com/3bej26r)
To: EternalVigilance
The RSC budget was bill H CON RES 37, but no roll call vote listed on the House website. Was this edited out too?
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posted on
04/15/2011 3:57:29 PM PDT
by
ejdrapes
(Donald Trump calls George W Bush "evil": http://tinyurl.com/3bej26r)
To: ejdrapes
Thanks. Let me know if you find the video of the RSC vote.
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posted on
04/15/2011 3:57:44 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(If you don't see a leader, be a leader.)
To: ejdrapes
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posted on
04/15/2011 3:58:31 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(If you don't see a leader, be a leader.)
To: EternalVigilance
Found a short video on YouTube. But the video on CSPAN's website goes black at 11AM EST and doesn't come back until 1PM EST. According to CSPAN the RSC vote was schedule to happen around 11AM EST. Someone got CSPAN to scrub their video.
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posted on
04/15/2011 4:08:13 PM PDT
by
ejdrapes
(Donald Trump calls George W Bush "evil": http://tinyurl.com/3bej26r)
To: EternalVigilance; All
There were 119 Republicans who voted for the RSC budget. I think it was 18 votes shy of passing. If anyone finds out who the 119 were please post here.
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posted on
04/15/2011 4:10:13 PM PDT
by
ejdrapes
(Donald Trump calls George W Bush "evil": http://tinyurl.com/3bej26r)
To: ejdrapes
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posted on
04/15/2011 4:13:08 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(If you don't see a leader, be a leader.)
To: EternalVigilance
Here's video on Huffington Post. According to National Review Online the GOP split on the RSC budget was 119 Y 120 N. Doesn't say much for Paul Ryan and his budget, does it?
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posted on
04/15/2011 4:22:49 PM PDT
by
ejdrapes
(Donald Trump calls George W Bush "evil": http://tinyurl.com/3bej26r)
To: ejdrapes
No, it sure doesn’t.
God is clearly revealing their gross hypocrisy to any who care to see.
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posted on
04/15/2011 4:25:38 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(If you don't see a leader, be a leader.)
To: The Bronze Titan; mongo141
my reading is that the RSC budget proposal was more stringent on spending, maybe something freshmen or other conservatives had put together to make a point.
no one expected it (or, congress being congress, wanted it) to pass but the Democrats suddenly jumped over in support of it, in an effort to show the criminal Republicans to be even more niggardly than previously believed.
also the Repubs would then have to go through the embarrassing process of overturning their own conservative budget bill in order to pass the Ryan bill
it wasn’t RINOs voting with Dems, it was the Dems tuning up their violins for the big fires to come
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posted on
04/15/2011 4:33:37 PM PDT
by
lurp
To: in the wind
The dems would not twist in the wind. They would twist the votes in public, with media compliance, to hang the conservatives.
Conservatives need to become more pragmatic, study strategy and tactics and realize this is politics, which is war by other means.
A brief satisfaction followed by a stunning reversal and eventual defeat would invalidate everything we have gained, so far. We got here by donk incrementalism and we only get out with incrementalism of our own.
Pray for patience.
To: La Enchiladita
The RSC is conservative. Ryan is a republican.
Ryan’s plan doesn’t get the deficit for This year correct and doesn’t plan to balance the budget for more than twenty years. That’s not conservative.
To: La Enchiladita
I’m sorry but you’re going over the top. The fact is that our founders created a system of government where it all stops unless the House, Senate, President and SC agree. It was assumed that in the absence of man’s law, Liberty would result. It assumed that unless everyone generally agreed on something, it was not God’s design.
Madison planned for this to happen.
The House can stop this any time it wants. They don’t have to wait for any one else.
To: joe fonebone
That’s exactly right. The Dems did us a favor, sifting the Conservatives from the Republicans.
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