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B.C.'s sockeye salmon may not survive climate warming: Study
theprovince.com ^ | 31 Mar 2011 | Margaret Munro

Posted on 03/31/2011 10:48:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog

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I don't buy into the climate warming thing, but the fish biology is fascinating.


1 posted on 03/31/2011 10:48:29 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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If salmon are so darn sensitive, one wonders how they ever came to survive to the modern day. Surely this isn’t the only “global warming” within memory of fishdom?


2 posted on 03/31/2011 10:51:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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Then they killed the fish and examined their muscles and hearts.

Yeah, I understand that's even worse for the fish than global warming...

3 posted on 03/31/2011 10:52:58 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: smokingfrog

So how do the sockeye in rivers far further south and much warmer... still seem to make it work?


4 posted on 03/31/2011 10:55:14 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: smokingfrog

People in the media are still trying to push this Gore-bull Warming BS? That is sooooo last decade...


5 posted on 03/31/2011 10:57:16 PM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yeah, if they made it through the medieval warm period, they will make it through this.


6 posted on 03/31/2011 11:01:57 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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[[Yeah, I understand that’s even worse for the fish than global warming... ]]

no no no- nothing is worse than global warming- even death by examination isn’t aqs bad- man must be punished for global warming and that’s final- the enviro nuts will not stop until they’ve taxed every last citizen to death for a naturally occuring cyclical event


7 posted on 03/31/2011 11:03:33 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Ramius

Beats me. I guess there are slight differences in the 100 genetically distinct populations of fish that allow some to survive in warmer waters.


8 posted on 03/31/2011 11:07:03 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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Or maybe... there’s no difference at all.


9 posted on 03/31/2011 11:10:05 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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I guess there are slight differences in the 100 genetically distinct populations of fish that allow some to survive in warmer waters.

Which is why various life forms have been able to adapt to and survive thousands of climate variations over the past few million years. Natural selection.

10 posted on 03/31/2011 11:17:23 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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So, as I understand it, after tissue samples are baked, flash frozen, treated with acid and liquified in a blender, there is microscopic damage to the cells, which can be directly linked to “climate change”...


11 posted on 03/31/2011 11:27:43 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

True, these fish were driven extinct millions of years ago, the biologists just need to move their thermometers closer to outlets that drain in the river to help illustrate the point.


12 posted on 03/31/2011 11:36:13 PM PDT by dila813
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To: smokingfrog

On other words, they want to cut fishing salmon and raise prices significantly.


13 posted on 03/31/2011 11:39:23 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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Salmon have survived for millions of years through far warmer climates but not a half degree Centigrade increase now? LOL


14 posted on 03/31/2011 11:43:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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ScienceDaily (Nov. 21, 2008) — University of British Columbia researchers have found a way to accurately predict the impact of climate change on imperiled Pacific salmon stocks that could result in better management strategies.

In 2004, unusually warm river temperatures and earlier entry into the Fraser River system contributed to the “disappearance” of 70 per cent of the Weaver Creek sockeye stock.

“In contrast, the Gates Creek sockeye stock, which have a higher thermal window, experienced few problems with the same high river temperatures that year.”

“This study shows that an increase over the past 50 years of 1.8 degrees Celsius in the Fraser River’s peak summer temperatures is too much too fast for *some* salmon stocks.” http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081112124416.htm


15 posted on 04/01/2011 12:04:27 AM PDT by anglian
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The article points out that *some* salmon travel up to 1,100 kilometres against powerful currents to spawn, while others have much easier migration routes. The salmon with the more difficult migration routes are more vulnerable to temperature changes.


16 posted on 04/01/2011 12:16:08 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Yep. Amazin stuff.


17 posted on 04/01/2011 12:25:54 AM PDT by anglian
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To: smokingfrog

Revival of a 3 year old article. Guess they have run out of new studies.

http://www.publicaffairs.ubc.ca/ubcreports/2008/08feb07/degrees.html


18 posted on 04/01/2011 12:27:44 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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She must have got another grant.


19 posted on 04/01/2011 12:30:39 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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Drop in BC Sockeye Salmon Numbers a Mystery
20 posted on 04/01/2011 12:41:49 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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