Thrilled by the ‘Arab Spring’? You’re Delusional

Pajamas Media ^ | March 29, 2011 | Fred Grandy

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Stuff by Fred Grandy.

[Wuli]

“If freedom and democracy are waiting to sprout from Tunis to Manama, where are the seeds? Who exactly is doing the sowing?”

The top question of 2011!!

[BobP]

Only the junior-college professor president would believe Libya and Egypt would have anything to do with democracy.

The train wreck rolls on.

[allmost]

Try to understand it.

[silverleaf]

Grandy is better in print than he is on radio

[Smber]

I would add that Europe had western traditions and was primarily Christian in their faith. Both of these facets helped smooth the transition beginning in 1989. The Muslim culture has no democratic or individual-based traditions; they’ve always been dictatorial and autocratic. More despots will rise from this so-called “Arab spring”. Muslim “culture” is incompatible with western representative republics and democracy.

[MestaMachine]

AND he darn sure knows exactly what he is talking about. Someone needs to wake up and tell those who are still asleep that o-negative is al qaeda in our House. He was trained as an imam and I BELIEVE that on his trip to pakistan, he finished his training and was given his instructions for jihad...which he has followed faithfully.
His next step is to back the falsestinians in their 3rd intifada against Israel...secretly, of course. Nonetheless, he will do it.

[TigersEye]

democracy = the seeds of socialism

Why don't any of our politicians ever recommend representative republics with the rule of law? (you know the answer)

[XenaLee]

Well one thing’s for sure. If they let Daffy live....and they probably will, since if they really wanted to kill him, they wouldn’t have waited and given him time to hide...he’ll be gunning (literally) for America from here to eternity. Just what America needs...another radical Muzzy that hates us...and no doubt, just what Obama wanted.

[Uncle Ike]

” I would add that Europe had western traditions and was primarily Christian in their faith. Both of these facets helped smooth the transition beginning in 1989. “

Bingo - Mr. Grandy omitted the most damning evidence: when the Soviet Hegemony collapsed, the sections with strong Muslim tradition - Chechnya, the ‘Stans’, Serbia-Croatia, and so forth - are almost universally ‘failed states’, or teetering on the edge....

[Iron Munro]

But, but, but......

Carter freed the Iranians, didn’t he?

Now The Obamasiah Himself is carrying on that democrat party tradition in Egypt, Libya and other venues yet to be announced.

[x_plus_one]

Americans and in particular the cloistered average democrat middle class voter are as dumb as a box of rocks. They want to believe everything piece of scary disinformation they are fed.

[monocle]

If sharia law is adopted as the supreme law in any of these countries, say hello to another theocracy modeled somewhat along the lines of Iran - maybe not immediately but in the near future.

[x_plus_one]

Christianity is a prerequisite for the modern christian democracy. This fact is too distasteful to fall out of the mouths of the liberal intelligentsia. So now, we are all told and are required to group think and agree with the premise that the coming of democracy in the middle east is just around the corner.

Obama is fiddling for time while the middle east is handed over to the moslem brotherhood.

And we are sitting on our hands with a moslem president named Barak Hussein Obama while Islam marches on. If the president was pro-christian he'd at least go by a western name.

[Uncle Ike]

” of the liberal intelligentsia. So now, we are all told and are required to group think and agree with the premise that the coming of democracy in the middle east is just around the corner. “

Sadly, it’s not just the ‘liberal intelligentsia’ — it’s a common belief among a large segment of our fellow FReepers, these days..

And if we harken back to the Iraq invasion, the unspoken assumption by all players (up to and including Rumsfeld and Bush) implicit in the ‘narrative’, was that, where the tanks passed, something akin to “Poughkeepsie-on-the-Euphrates” would spontaneously, magically, spring up in their wake...

[Think free or die]

"Unlike that other fertile era when democracy flowered across central Europe before the Berlin Wall finally collapsed twenty years ago, there are no Lech Walesas or Vaclev Havels to lead the way to a totally new and unfamiliar system of self-governance."

Self governance was not a new and unfamiliar concept to the people of Poland or Czechoslovakia. They had experience with liberty, a deep sense of history, and before WWII, highly developed western cultures and economies. In contrast, Russia lacked a history of representative democracy, and we see how corrupt 'strongmen' have continued to dominate, whether Putin in government or mobsters in the larger economy.

[9YearLurker]

I agree. I was shocked by how quickly the boys over at the NR were arguing for us to institute a no-fly zone over Libya, and now the complaint with Obama is that he took a month before getting involved.

There’s got to be some seriously misguided think-tankism behind this, and I fear the GOP is embracing in foreign policy what Romneycare is to Obamacare.

[blueplum]

is it just me, or is our admn supporting shiite over sunni -In the countries this admn is encouraging regime change in there is a sunni ruling class with shiites revolting. In the countries this admn says they will not interfer in (iran/syria/etc) there is already a shiite ruling class.

Or am I just seeing things?