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Terri Schiavo’s Family Sponsors Symposium on End of Life Issues
Life News ^ | 3/28/11 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/28/2011 10:45:49 AM PDT by wagglebee

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“With health care rationing on the rise, it is crucial to educate our future attorneys on the moral and legal understandings as it relates to basic healthcare needs such as food and water,” he said. “In the future, these are the very men and women who will be essential to protecting the rights of the cognitively disabled, the elderly and medically dependent.”

This is more important than ever.

1 posted on 03/28/2011 10:45:59 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 03/28/2011 10:47:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 03/28/2011 10:48:58 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 03/28/2011 10:51:34 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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My mother specified do not resuscitate, but we still wanted her to have oxygen and could give her water. To starve and dehydrate a person to death is heinous. How could one live with oneself without the mercy of even placing a sponge with water on the tongue? I can’t conceive of it.


5 posted on 03/28/2011 11:11:59 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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This is an excellent idea. I’d also like to see the health care industry educated in ethics. The culture of death permeates the health care industry today. If we could get them to first do no harm, the problem would be solved.


6 posted on 03/28/2011 11:25:06 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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I think it is a matter of money. We are in so much debt that if they let every person live until they die it costs a fortune. It is horrible to starve someone of course. It is just a matter of who pays for the hospital bill of someone who stays alive years and years longer. I say the family pays. The insurance company should pay until the doctor says there is no hope. Anyone without insurance should not even have a choice. How dare uninsured folks leave the bill to the tax payers. I am really sick of that!!!!


7 posted on 03/28/2011 11:31:22 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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Should I ask for a sarc tag?


8 posted on 03/28/2011 11:34:32 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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Well I can say that I am serious about the money. Why should you or I pay? You probably are not a conservative but I am.


9 posted on 03/28/2011 11:38:09 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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It is horrible to starve someone of course. It is just a matter of who pays for the hospital bill of someone who stays alive years and years longer. I say the family pays. The insurance company should pay until the doctor says there is no hope. Anyone without insurance should not even have a choice. How dare uninsured folks leave the bill to the tax payers. I am really sick of that!!!!

I remember a year and a half ago when FReepers were really disgusted by the notion of death panels, but it seems like some FReepers were in favor of death panels the whole time and just kept quiet about it.

It's really disgusting how many FReepers are openly supporting Obamacare.

10 posted on 03/28/2011 11:46:53 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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You sound more like Obama than a conservative. He agrees with you that these people should just die.


11 posted on 03/28/2011 12:03:31 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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Yep, and doing under the flag of being ‘conservative’ yet.


12 posted on 03/28/2011 12:04:18 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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Exactly!
13 posted on 03/28/2011 12:06:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Its going to get worse, quickly. The powers that be have set up all the pieces for economic inter-generational warfare, and even "conservatives" will be more than happy to pull the plug on non-producers, as long as they think it will preserve their own wallet.
14 posted on 03/28/2011 12:08:39 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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The powers that be have set up all the pieces for economic inter-generational warfare, and even "conservatives" will be more than happy to pull the plug on non-producers, as long as they think it will preserve their own wallet.

Which is nearly identical to what has happened under every genocidal dictatorship in modern times.

15 posted on 03/28/2011 12:11:18 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The insurance company should pay until the doctor says there is no hope.

You better hope your PCP's alter ego isn't Dr. Kevorkian.

Take my word for it, don't trust ANY doctor's pronouncement that "there is no hope." Especially if they do not believe in the sanctity of human life.

16 posted on 03/28/2011 12:13:09 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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... but it seems like some FReepers were in favor of death panels the whole time and just kept quiet about it.

They haven't been entirely silent. Some of them have been parroting this poster for a number of years.


"60,000 Reichsmark is what this person
suffering from hereditary defects costs
the community during his lifetime.
Fellow Germans, that is your money,
too. Read 'New People', the monthly
magazine of the Bureau for Race
Politics of the Nazi Party."


We will not be silent.
We are your bad conscience.
The White Rose will give you no rest.

17 posted on 03/28/2011 12:13:52 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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Indeed. No true Conservative would think twice about voluntarily contributing to a fund for the uninsured, dying poor.

Our entire point, the entire argument about zer0-death-care is that the government has no business taking over any business, let alone health care and health insurance.

The only reason that these businesses become broken is that the government breaks them and then steps in claiming to be the only solution.

They repeat this pattern over and over again. Many of us really need to wake up.

18 posted on 03/28/2011 12:23:51 PM PDT by TheOldLady (The Long Knives of Sallegroldladeo stand guard beyond "The Line." Don't cross it.)
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Take my word for it, don't trust ANY doctor's pronouncement that "there is no hope." Especially if they do not believe in the sanctity of human life.

And it gets even more treacherous when money is involved.

19 posted on 03/28/2011 12:24:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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You probably are not a conservative but I am.

Now that's funny as everytime I talk to you I get freepmails that you're a troll. And I agree.

20 posted on 03/28/2011 12:29:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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