Posted on 03/18/2011 8:49:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Yes a home nat gas compressor station would be a nice way around gasoline rationing.
Range is a function of the tank. Tanks can be measured in gge (gallon of gas equivilent) and multiple tanks can be added to improve range ... the trade off is space. Larger vehicles such as trucks can make this trade of a lot easier than a mini-cooper.
I should disclose that I plan to convert my truck to NG as prices here in Colorado run between $0.85 to $1.35 / gge. On a 15 mpg truck, that can add up to a huge difference. ON a 40 mpg hybrid, not so much.
So how much does it cost in electricity to compress 100 miles worth of natural gas?
I think LNG is a great idea. But what about the exploding “gas” tanks?
Not sure. Elec is pretty low priced here (until the Baraqqis get our coal plants shut down).
To me it’s not so much the operating cost but the ability to have your own fuel supply that is desirable.
For the PHILL?
Electrical Electrical Supply: 240 VAC / 60 HZ.
Electrical Consumption During Fueling: 0.8kwh (average).
General Purpose Electrical Rating.
I got that from this site:
http://www.wisegasinc.com/wg-phill.htm
I am fully willing to put conversion kits for NG/Gasoline in my 2 cars but there is only 1 station 25 miles away which allows the public to access the pump.
On the other hand there are 17 nearby run by NYS DOT who PROHIBIT the public from filling up. WE OWN these station but cannot use them.
Any wonder I hate government with every fiber of my being and shed no tear when one of them meets their ultimate NATURAL fate.
These criminal scum are pushing us into an energy corner and deliberately blocking every avenue of escape while at the same time using their communist buddies in the media to blame everything on BIG OIL.
Using a fleet of dual fuel cars would allow for an EASY, ORDERLY transition from all gasoline to dual use to all Natural Gas. It is as simple as flipping a switch to go from NG to Gasoline and back again. As more and more stations start to provide NG more time would be spent running on NG.
I saw a video of one of these blowing up on the side of the Autobahn. It just went *poof*. Seriously, like someone stuck an M-80 under a plastic model car. It was burning, then *poof*, then it wasn’t there anymore.
There is little explosive potential for gasoline. Mythbusters tried to get a gas tank to explode, but in the end had to actually use explosives to accomplish a movie-style car blowing up.
Gas burns very well though, just doesn’t explode easily.
NYS also has shale drilling basically shut down for the foreseeable future.
RE: NYS also has shale drilling basically shut down for the foreseeable future.
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Yep, and in the meantime, states like Pennsylvania and North Dakota are exploiting their own natural gas resources and creating thousands of jobs in the process.
Somehow, only in NY does drilling for natural gas become an issue about contaminating drinking water.
The pity is == it is estimated that NYS actually has MORE natural gas than most other states.
You could use liquid natural gas, but you’d have to have a recycler for the boiloff, and that takes energy in itself.
And what a way to get business into this state. A ready supply of reasonably priced natural gas to be piped where it’s needed. Kill job killing regulations on business and you have a job growth environment. Plus the jobs created in the actual production of the gas.
I wonder how soon they will oppose drilling for frozen methane, which the USA has humongous reserves (way more than all the oil ever discovered). FM could be burned easily in cars equipped to run on Natural Gas.
I do find it very strange however, (conspiracy???), that frozen methane has been put on the back burner (pun intended) or even completely ignored. Such vast resources could easily exert downward pressure on fossil fuel prices.
Yes, Cuomo is more concerned with gay marriage and shifting the deck chairs on the Titanic as far as state government and regulations.
Do you have any good resources on the FM?
How much does it cost to convert a vehicle to natural gas? Also how many fueling stations are there around Colorado? (I’m in Arvada, and have a fairly thirsty Caddy).
You are going to want this url http://www.altfuelprices.com/stations/CNG/Colorado/Denver/
You will note that the PUBLIC filling stations charge for overhead, taxes and profit so the GGE price right now is between $2.00 and $2.25. If you use a home filling station, you can get the lower rate.
HOWEVER, you have to buy the home filling station and have it installed. Also, you have to covert the vehicle. If you are going to try and get the $4,000 tax credit, you will have to have the system meet certain standards. On average about $2,000 to $5,000 depending on the make, model, level of certification and the cost of the home fueling station.
Generally speaking, the tax credit makes it a wash from an initial capital expense. Your milage may very so do your home work.
headstamp only the ton of information via a google search. I originally was made aware of it via the Drudge report and did a lot of searches.
I have seen estimates as low as 250 years to thousands of years of reserves at our projected consumption.
It burns much cleaner than oil. Is recoverable at around the 300’ level fairly close to shore and in some land base deposits so drilling deep wells is not required.
I am sure there are enough “well what ifs” to keep the enviro-wackos in their block everything mode but this resource could simply build on our already ample supply of natural gas. Maybe that is why it is not getting a lot of attention as NG pricing has been low lately.
“Is anybody working on a better home compressor system?”
Nope, as far as I know. If they get a few more filling stations and some more vehicles available, I still might try it. Right now, even the nearest filling station is too far from me (i.e., cost me a chunk of range just going there and back).
But I am keeping my eyes open too.
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