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Allen West to birthers: focus on Obama policies instead
Palm Beach Post ^ | February 23rd, 2011 | by George Bennett

Posted on 03/16/2011 5:38:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: TChad
I have read about the failure of birther bills in state after state. Have any states actually passed such legislation?

Apparently not, but birther bills in seven states have not yet been rejected:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2690068/posts?page=10#10

Thanks to newzjunkey for the research.

241 posted on 03/16/2011 10:51:23 PM PDT by TChad
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To: pissant
You either value ALL innocent human life, or you don't.

IDF, settlers save Arab baby

It's one of the key things that separates decent, civilized people from murderous barbarians.

242 posted on 03/16/2011 10:51:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: EternalVigilance
You just can't get around the fact that under the Twentieth Amendment Congress is determining whether a President-elect has qualified or not. At least without using ridiculous weasel words.

Read it again. It doesn't say that Congress determines whether the president-elect has qualified. It only instructs Congress how to proceed if a president-elect has not qualified ... which would most likely be in regard to not having enough of the electoral vote.

243 posted on 03/16/2011 10:53:17 PM PDT by edge919
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To: EternalVigilance

Did you read what you posted?

It says if the President fails to qualify, then the VP will act as President. It doesnt mention Congress in that line at all.

The next section says that if both Pres and VP dont qualify, Congress will declare an acting Pres.

It says nothing at all about whether Congress determines if he is qualified. It only deals with how Congress and the Executive will act if it happens.


244 posted on 03/16/2011 10:54:14 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: TChad
I have read about the failure of birther bills in state after state. Have any states actually passed such legislation?

I've read elsewhere that Oklahoma's senate passed their eligibility bill and it goes to their House next. I would anticipate that somehow this will get stymied, but if one of these bills should happen to get through, Obama is done.

245 posted on 03/16/2011 10:58:41 PM PDT by edge919
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To: EternalVigilance

When you are wiling to carry Obama and Larry Sinclairs offspring in an artifcial womb inserted up your hind end, then we’ll discuss this again.


246 posted on 03/16/2011 10:59:01 PM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

pissant, you’re not pro-life. You do realize that, right?


247 posted on 03/16/2011 11:03:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: Raider Sam
If you believe in the 10th Amendment, then it should be up to the States.
What should be up to the States? Verification of Congressional eligibility requirements? Incomplete sentences don't help the discussion.

But it doesnt name any institution to be the one to determine it.
I'm assuming by the first "it" you mean the Constitution, right?
And that's why I'm asking you to state who, or what, determines "it". I'm assuming by the second "it" you mean eligibility requirements, right?

So if we follow your argument to its logical conclusion then it must be concluded that the States are also responsible for deciding if the candidate for POTUS is eligible despite your claim that there is nothing in the Constitution that places the requirement on anybody or anything.
That the Constitution does not address who is responsible for determining the President’s eligibility is not an assertion, it is fact.
The 10th is part of the Constitution, isn't it?

Your attempt at a non answer isn't working in your favor.

248 posted on 03/16/2011 11:04:04 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: pissant
Much like your notion that Charlie Manson gets to pick the women for his spawn, regardless of their willingness.
Well since I never had such a notion and such a thing is only a figment of your imagination I can only conclude that you're simply talking out of your...ahem..."nether regions".
249 posted on 03/16/2011 11:06:13 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: EternalVigilance

That’s the patron saint of the atheists you’re quoting there. If that doesn’t highlight how ass-backwards things have gotten in this country, nothing does.

Keep fighting the good fight, my FRiend. Truth is on your side.


250 posted on 03/16/2011 11:07:25 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: EternalVigilance

BS.


251 posted on 03/16/2011 11:08:44 PM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: EternalVigilance; All

Cross off Allen West for any Presidential run

If you do not have the backbone to challenge the Obama Eligibility issue....you will go soft on the other issues

Obviously, it loks like the Tea Party has not produced REAL CONSERVATIVES. I was hoping West would be one...forget that

Not going after Obama on the Eligibility issue is just supporting Obama.


252 posted on 03/16/2011 11:13:59 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Fiscal Conservatives...are neither)
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To: edge919; Raider Sam

Well, obviously the Republicans in Congress agree with you, not me. No one is responsible for determining qualifications. No one is responsible for anything, especially when it comes to following the Constitution, any more. And so, the Constitution, in one of it most fundamental, and critically important, requirements, goes undefended.

But again, I assert that every single officer of government has sworn to defend and to uphold the Constitution, in all its specific requirements. Every member of Congress had a sworn duty to call for Obama’s credentials before the electoral vote was signed off on by them. They are all in breach.

Their act of ratifying the results of the electoral college is not just ceremonial and meaningless. Their oath isn’t either.


253 posted on 03/16/2011 11:14:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: philman_36

You mean he doesn’t?


254 posted on 03/16/2011 11:14:37 PM PDT by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Raider Sam
BTW...
If you believe in the 10th Amendment, then it should be up to the States.
Your reply is as if such verification is only a possibility instead of an actuality.

Someone, or something, does check out the requirements. All you have to do is state, or find out, who does check out the candidate's qualifications.

255 posted on 03/16/2011 11:15:20 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Thank you. I really appreciate it.


256 posted on 03/16/2011 11:15:39 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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To: EternalVigilance
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." -- The Preamble, or Statement of Purpose, of the United States Constitution

Just to address something really quicky. The Constitution was established by "We the People of the United States." These were the original citizens of this country who declared their allegiance and renounced their former allegiances. This constitution was established for "ourselves and our Posterity," which means for the original citizens and the children of these citizens. It wasn't established for the original citizens and whoever happened to be passing through. It wasn't established for "ourselves and visiting scholars who have no intention of becoming citizens."

Article II, Section I refers to "natural born citizens" and "citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of the Constitution." The latter is "ourselves" and the "former" is "our Posterity." Any other citizens are those who become naturalized under the authority of Congress. Once the parents are naturalized, then their subsequent would be born as natural born citizens, as that is the Posterity of citizens of the United States.

257 posted on 03/16/2011 11:17:34 PM PDT by edge919
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To: philman_36

It is a possibility, and not an actuality right now. Who verifies it? Who verified any President’s credentials? Does it even happen?


258 posted on 03/16/2011 11:18:43 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Not according to the 20th Amendment, which has been explained at least 3 times on this thread.


259 posted on 03/16/2011 11:19:52 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: pissant
BS.

How so? You think little innocent children can be some kind of evil "spawn," and therefore it's fine to eradicate them.

260 posted on 03/16/2011 11:20:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - Throw All The Bums Out!)
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