Posted on 03/16/2011 5:38:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
NO-ONE, not you, not the government, not Charlie Manson, has ANY RIGHT WHATSOEVER to kidnap, rape and force a woman to carry your child. Sorry. That’s not the way freedom works.
No amount repeating those lines has any bearing on that. None.
It is only EVIL to force a woman to carry Charlie Mansons spawn. You’re out of your gourd and do not help the pro-life cause by making such asinine arguments.
Right now, legally, he does. Public admissions dont prove anything in court, and they havent yet. There is nothing in the Constitution that allows you to remove the President if he hasnt been proven ineligible.
That the Constitution does not address who is responsible for determining the President’s eligibility is not an assertion, it is fact.
For the record, Congressman West’s “health of the mother” exception right up front assures that virtually every abortion being committed now could still be committed, even if his views became public policy.
Here is his stated position from his own website:
“I believe all future discussion on this issue should move us toward the elimination of abortion except in the most extraordinary of circumstances.”
http://www.allenwestforcongress.com/life
“In the case of rape, incest, and “actual” endangerment of a mother’s health the decision truly belongs with a woman.”
http://www.allenwestforcongress.com/blog/west-weekly-wrap-up-w3-report-for-end-of-jan-of-2010
Sorry, but your silly strawmen are not “my arguments.”
I’m not stupid, pissant, and neither are most FReepers who are reading this exchange.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Since there's nothing in the Constitution that delegates the power to determine the president's eligibility, this would fall to the states or to the people. This is consistent with how states require candidates to sign affadavits or ballot nomination forms. The states hold elections and the states are responsible for choosing electors.
What rights does the child have? NONE? Couldn't the woman carry the child to term and then give it up for adoption if she were raped? Wouldn't that be more humane than murdering it in the womb?
(at least you're admitting that there is a child and it's not just some blob of tissue)
In 1968 the State of California removed the Black Panther candidate, Eldridge Cleaver, from the presidential ballot because he did not meet the constitutional requirements, being only 34 years of age at the time of the election.
Artificial wombs are in the very near future. Obama can plant one up your rear end and you can carry his and Michele’s kid to term. Once you do that, then you’ll have standing.
May God have mercy on us. But I can't blame Him if He doesn't.
Public admissions dont prove anything in court, and they havent yet.
Yes they do, it's called testimony and evidence. The only reason they "haven't yet" is because of legal wrangling through "lack of standing".
There is nothing in the Constitution that allows you to remove the President if he hasnt been proven ineligible.
LOL! Now that's funny! A real Catch-22 you've got there.
Is there anything in the Constitution that allows the removal of a person who has been elected to the office of President when they're ineligible?
All they're doing is verifying the electoral count. There's nothing that suggestw Congress would have a duty to qualify a president on the basis of Art. II eligibility requirements.
Right, thats what I put in my second paragraph. I definitely think this falls to the states. What I was responding to the other poster is that it doesnt specify any position to rule on eligibility.
I hear ya. I share Thomas Jefferson's feelings about this.
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever."
If the Constitution doesn't address who is responsible for determining the President’s eligibility then who is responsible for ensuring that any office holder is eligible? Members of Congress have requirements too so somebody has to determine if someone running for that office is eligible, don't they? Do they just assume that responsibility of their own accord? Is it the political parties who bear the responsibility that their candidates qualify or is it someone else?
Are you saying that since the Constitution does not address who is responsible for determining the eligibility of the POTUS that nobody is responsible for checking anybody else running for any public office?
I mean, the Constitution doesn't explicitly address who is responsible for determining the eligibility of somebody running for Congress either.
So how are people running for Congress proven eligible?
Your reply is inane and contemptible.
If you believe in the 10th Amendment, then it should be up to the States. But it doesnt name any institution to be the one to determine it.
The Twentieth AmendmentSection 3.
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
You just can't get around the fact that under the Twentieth Amendment Congress is determining whether a President-elect has qualified or not. At least without using ridiculous weasel words.
Much like your notion that Charlie Manson gets to pick the women for his spawn, regardless of their willingness.
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