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Meet a True Muslim Patriot
Townhall.com ^ | March 11, 2011 | Joel Mowbray

Posted on 03/11/2011 10:26:55 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Kaslin.
It is precisely that mutual love of Islam and America that led Dr. Jasser to speak out in the aftermath of Sept. 11, 2001, when he was disgusted by a parade of Muslims taking to the media to blame "U.S. foreign policy" rather than Islamic fanaticism... yesterday he was the star witness at the congressional hearings on Islamic radicalization... "I've never met a Muslim who wouldn't report violence," Dr. Jasser says. "But this isn't about violence; it's about walking back the ideas that can lead to violence, specifically those ideas that can implicitly justify actions against the 'oppressors.' " ... "Cooperation is also a continuum," he says of the controversial comments from Mr. King that the Muslim community has failed to cooperate fully with law enforcement. "It's not just about reporting violence but about reporting radicalism and then going further and countering those anti-American sentiments." ... Labeling himself "a fairly orthodox Muslim," Dr. Jasser does not hesitate to note that he and his wife are "raising our children conservatively in the Islamic faith." ... "Ultimately and most importantly," Dr. Jasser says, his passion rising, "what I want is for my children to grow up in an Islamic community that rejects Islamism in favor of the principles of liberty."
Freedom to Lie in order to bide time as our strength increases during the hudna is the chief liberty. IOW, sorry, no, I don't believe him. And this op-ed paints a nice rosy picture, and basically gives part of what he said, but then over 2/3 is spin. FAIL. Thanks Dr. Sheldon Cooper, I found this while reading your comments. Welcome to FR.


41 posted on 03/12/2011 6:41:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Taqqiyya shoots them in the foot. Now that we all know that they’re supposed to lie to fool their enemies, we will never be able to tell the “good” from the bad.

Kill ‘em all; let God sort ‘em out.

Too harsh.

Okay, deport ‘em all and let I’manutjob sort ‘em out.


42 posted on 03/12/2011 6:53:00 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Kaslin

Bump


43 posted on 03/13/2011 5:40:27 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: CynicalBear

Are you calling Dr Jasser a liar? Because only an idiot would do that.


44 posted on 03/13/2011 5:45:08 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: HonestConservative; righttackle44; not2worry

There are some incredibly small-minded people on FR....as you have previously witnessed on this thread.


45 posted on 03/13/2011 5:51:58 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: HonestConservative; righttackle44; not2worry

There are some incredibly small-minded people on FR....as you have previously witnessed on this thread.


46 posted on 03/13/2011 5:52:01 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Westbrook
Unfortunately, I tend to side with your take of exploded and unexploded. Anyone recall the doctors who went nuts in the UK? The premise of Islam alone that some savior named mohammed will come out of a well and save all and so many other weird and strange belief systems rule out sanity in this religion IMHO.

Besides that most religions don't mandate a way of life as well. I still say its more of a cult than not and remain suspicious of anyone who embraces it. How can you while reaming logical? The two don't jive.

47 posted on 03/13/2011 6:00:25 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Apercu

Once again I hate to agree with what you say but I do. Actions always speak louder than words and there are so few “moderate Muslims” willing to go against the crazies it creates huge issues of doubt among the rest of us.


48 posted on 03/13/2011 6:02:57 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: nuconvert
>>Are you calling Dr Jasser a liar? Because only an idiot would do that.<<

The Quran is his book of choice right?

Taqqaia (lying) in the Quran

Qur’an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur’an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”

Qur’an (2:225) - “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts”

Qur’an (66:2) - “Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths”

Qur’an (3:54) - “And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.” The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.

“By Allah, and Allah willing, if I take an oath and later find something else better than that. Then I do what is better and expiate my oath.' " [Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427:]

Let a word to the wise. I don't think it's being an idiot to understand what their faith teaches them.

49 posted on 03/13/2011 8:09:12 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

“I don’t think it’s being an idiot to understand what their faith teaches them. “

Being an idiot is someone who thinks that everyone of a certain faith/race/ethnicity is the same.


50 posted on 03/13/2011 9:41:23 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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>>Being an idiot is someone who thinks that everyone of a certain faith/race/ethnicity is the same.<<

How many “faiths” put you under a death sentence for leaving the faith or speaking out against the faith, and how would that affect the dedication to that faith?

One only has to look back at history to see who the idiot was to think that Islam is a religion of peace or that those who assumed they were safe thinking the ones they knew were different.

51 posted on 03/13/2011 10:04:22 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Are you calling Dr Jasser a liar? Because only an idiot would do that.


52 posted on 03/13/2011 10:18:35 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

I’m saying he is a self described Muslim. I then pointed out what their religion of Islam teaches and the reason I would never, ever, unequivocally trust any one of them. You do as you wish. Clear enough?


53 posted on 03/13/2011 10:55:32 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

It’s very clear that you are someone who thinks that everyone of a certain faith is the same.


54 posted on 03/13/2011 11:03:14 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
>> It’s very clear that you are someone who thinks that everyone of a certain faith is the same.<<

Wow! That’s a leap. But make it if you want.

55 posted on 03/13/2011 11:22:51 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: nuconvert

Thanks for your words. Seem to be an awful lot of them on FR lately. A lot of them seem to be Libertarians. I don’t mean to intentionally offend them, but it seems they take offense at the smallest things—they go looking for trouble.


56 posted on 03/13/2011 1:57:29 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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