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Immigrant left to die by starvation after Jesuit hospital decides care is too expensive
LifeSiteNews ^ | 3/10/11 | Peter Smith

Posted on 03/10/2011 12:13:39 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: surroundedbyblue

By all means, let one of her sons, with masters degrees, take their mother home and care for her or pay for her care at the hospital.

I am sure the hospital would be fine with that.

There is no moral high ground to say someone else, like the hospital or taxpayers, must pay for her care.


61 posted on 03/10/2011 3:11:45 PM PST by Fantomw
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To: RnMomof7

Evidently not the rwanda custom. Taking care of ones own that is.


62 posted on 03/10/2011 3:14:58 PM PST by Fantomw
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To: a02001

and what do you know of this story outside of one article?


63 posted on 03/10/2011 3:15:48 PM PST by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: trisham
Thanks for the link. It casts quite a different light on the whole situation. It's sad no matter how you look at it and beyond my ability to judge the ultimate solution.
64 posted on 03/10/2011 3:35:50 PM PST by WePledge (Semper Fidelis)
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To: WePledge

You’re welcome. Thank you for reading it.


65 posted on 03/10/2011 3:55:19 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee; tioga; metmom; BykrBayb; All

Another article:

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/insight/stories/2011/03/06/food-is-cut-off-for-stroke-victim.html


66 posted on 03/10/2011 3:59:15 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

After reading the articles, the only lesson I can really come up with (well, I can come up with others, but they’re very wordy) is that families have to take more responsibility for their aged or ailing familiy members, and this may indeed involve personal or family hardship, hard work or financial cost.

It’s going to have to happen. People need to care more for their own. With so many broken families, unwed mothers, and so on, this is very difficult.


67 posted on 03/10/2011 4:05:55 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: tioga; wagglebee; Mrs. Don-o

Imho, one of the issues is that Georgetown is a Catholic university.


68 posted on 03/10/2011 4:06:28 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, I agree. Still, I’m shocked that a Catholic hospital would be so callous.


69 posted on 03/10/2011 4:07:59 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I would not call 8 months of free care callous. Indeed I would call it the opposite... generous.


70 posted on 03/10/2011 4:20:26 PM PST by Fantomw
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To: trisham

It also sounds as though just maybe the part about the family not agreeing has more to it. Were there meeting to figure this all out, with everything laid on the table? What happened at any meetings?

IMO there should be places - run by charity, by insurance, whatever - sort of like nursing homes, but with family assisting, cheaper than hiring all professional people. Problem is, the insurance companies and various regulations have strangle holds so that things might likely have to be relaxed in order to have family come in an help care for their relatives. Could be small-ish places.

There has to be a better way to care for people who need care, but don’t need major hospital-only special care; things that family could learn to do.


71 posted on 03/10/2011 5:10:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: trisham

I am a Catholic.......I am pretty sure the Jesuits no longer are! They don’t act it anymore.


72 posted on 03/10/2011 6:03:34 PM PST by tioga
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To: wagglebee
As I mentioned earlier, 53 million innocent Americans have been murdered by judicial decree in the past 38 years, it's impossible to make any claim of moral superiority based on that.

It goes even beyond morality. When SCOTUS made its decision on Roe v. Wade, it was a direct attack on the Ten Commandments. The Supreme Court decided on that day that God was no longer necessary and that government would be the sole arbitrator of God's Commandments. (and of all things, under the guise of 'freedom of speech')

73 posted on 03/10/2011 6:17:04 PM PST by mtg
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To: RedMonqey
Sloan explained to the Times that the family did not have a right to consume hospital resources that might be allocated to others with better chances of recovery.

This doesn't sound like a mercy death to me. This sounds like people deciding who is to live and who is to die based on what they believe to be the monetary worth of a human life. At this rate, euthanasia will become as widely defined and acceptable as abortion.

74 posted on 03/10/2011 6:33:05 PM PST by mtg
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To: Mrs. Don-o

>> The real, central point is that a helpless woman’s feeding tube was removed, for the purpose of causing her death by starvation/dehydration.

That method for hastening death is effectively killing someone through torture.

This Country has the manpower to support the necessary convalescence. But too may want their taxpayer funded pensions and retire before their first gray hair.


75 posted on 03/10/2011 7:05:25 PM PST by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: RedMonqey

Are you talking about abuse by the staff?


76 posted on 03/10/2011 7:06:55 PM PST by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: wagglebee; Lesforlife
Brother Paul O' Donnell reports that the hospital Joseph is in is REFUSING to release the child's medical records. They are doing this to prevent anyone from getting custody of the child. I asked, "Why don't the parents have custody?"

So, basically, the hospital is ticked off about Fr. Pavone and everyone who is doing the right thing. They are playing hardball with Joseph.

Looks like they are going to put up obstacles hoping Joseph will die as they work on running out the clock.

77 posted on 03/10/2011 8:10:37 PM PST by floriduh voter (The culture of participating being replaced by the culture of taking. Animal Farm?)
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To: kbennkc; All

“Everything is about money, power,”

Isn’t there a charity that could help her, and others like her?

In my small town we are always raising money for very ill people who can’t afford everything they need for their illness.

In the meantime we can help with our prayers.


78 posted on 03/10/2011 10:16:41 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: ElenaM
Now the libs are in a pickle. Which subgroup wins: the race contingent or the deatheater contingent?

I would strongly guess that with a Satan inspired group death reigns.

79 posted on 03/10/2011 10:20:37 PM PST by Bellflower (Isa 32:5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said [to be] bountiful.)
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To: wagglebee

I read about this on Wesley J Smith’s blog. He thinks that
the family was 1. in disbelief and 2. did not know who
to contact in such an emergency. Do all of us know what
to tell someone we might meet faced with this circumstance
(the impending legal murder of a family member)? I’m
ready for some Real Life leafleting in my area if someone
can point me to a source. It’s that time of year again,
BTW.


80 posted on 03/10/2011 10:27:31 PM PST by cycjec
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