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Immigrant left to die by starvation after Jesuit hospital decides care is too expensive
LifeSiteNews ^ | 3/10/11 | Peter Smith

Posted on 03/10/2011 12:13:39 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee

“In our culture, we would never sentence a person to die from hunger.”

A good reason to go back to the morally superior culture of Rwanda.


21 posted on 03/10/2011 12:36:16 PM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: svcw
I did a lot of research on this six years ago when Terri Schiavo was being murdered and the cost (if it's at home and not in a hospital) is about $35K per year for a feeding tube and hydration.
22 posted on 03/10/2011 12:38:33 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I would have taken her home. With training, I managed my mother’s feeding tube for 3 1/2 months.


23 posted on 03/10/2011 12:39:24 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: wagglebee
“In our culture, we would never sentence a person to die from hunger.”

Of course not.. In Rwanda their culture would be to HACK them to death!!!
24 posted on 03/10/2011 12:42:25 PM PST by RedMonqey (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly)
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To: silverleaf; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; ...
A good reason to go back to the morally superior culture of Rwanda.

Let's see, Rwanda had a civil war and genocide where approximately 1 million people were killed. This woman and her family left, moved to the United States and became citizens.

Here in the United States a baby is killed EVERY 24 SECONDS, we dehydrate and starve the disabled to death and we will soon have death panels.

53 MILLION INNOCENT AMERICANS have been murdered as the result of judicial decree in the past 38 years -- if you think you can make a case based on that for "moral superiority," be my guest.

25 posted on 03/10/2011 12:45:12 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
The New York Times reports that Rachel Nyirahabiyambere, a 58-year-old grandmother and refugee from war-torn Rwanda, has been denied food and water since Feb. 19 after her feeding tube was removed.

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What hypocrisy.

26 posted on 03/10/2011 12:45:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

It’s such a lie. These helpless, defenceless souls are being tortured to death. At least have the human decency to admit that what you are doing is killing them.


27 posted on 03/10/2011 12:50:29 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

No - The point of this article is to pull-on our heart strings and blame others.

I notice Mrs. Nyirahabiyambere has a son, has a daughter, has grand-children. Its good to have family. Are they supporting their mother? Is life really so much better in Rwanda as they claim? Why blame Georgetown Univ. Hospital? They seem to have been extremely charitable and respectful in the many months they cared for this poor woman. So who then must protect life? Shall we only look for those with the deepest pockets to do so? I feel this article does not offer solutions, only emotion.


28 posted on 03/10/2011 12:50:39 PM PST by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: PGR88; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; Lesforlife; EternalVigilance; ...
So, you support death panels?

By that I mean you support the idea that a hospital can just decide to starve and dehydrate someone to death?

29 posted on 03/10/2011 12:54:47 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Good. You go pay for her healthcare or let the Baptist minister.


30 posted on 03/10/2011 12:58:20 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: PGR88

Hello??? Did you read the article? The hospital petitioned the court to appoint a legal guardian for this woman. That removed any control the family had over this woman’s care. Just like Terri Schiavo, whose family wanted to care for her at home at their own expense. The article’s point is that the gov has no right to decide who lives & who dies. Don’t you get that?


31 posted on 03/10/2011 12:58:38 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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Wow! The cold-hearted, anti-life responses by some FReepers are unbelievable & are what give conservatives a bad name.

I will pray for you.....some of you seem to be under the influence of the Evil One.


32 posted on 03/10/2011 1:00:54 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: wagglebee

Cut off her feeding tube and water? Gee, that’s what we do with people here in the US. It’s the ObamaCareWay. She should have been warned after watching Terri Schiavo MURDERED.


33 posted on 03/10/2011 1:04:57 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: wagglebee

First — it appears we don’t have ALL the pieces of this puzzle to put together. All we DO know is a woman is DYING and SOMEWHERE, SOMEONE has dropped to ball.

Second, if this is a failure of Georgetown Hospital, a “Jesuit” Hospital, are they “washing their hands” of her care because she is an immigrant — or because she is a Baptist? Yeah — the Jesuits have a history....

Third, it appears that the Government HAS intervened, so it may not matter WHAT the Hospital does or does not want to do. If the Government SAYS who can or cannot make decisions, or what can or cannot be done insofar as treatment, then the Hospitals hands are tied. The patient DOESN’T matter.


34 posted on 03/10/2011 1:07:08 PM PST by patriot preacher
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So, I guess you figured out that open borders didn't have anything to do with it and now you think her dead husband should pay?

It's threads like these that show me how many FReepers actually support death panels.

35 posted on 03/10/2011 1:08:27 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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<“In our culture, we would never sentence a person to die from hunger.”>

Of course not.. In Rwanda their culture would be to HACK them to death!!!

Murder is murder. No matter the country or the method. It's true the world is immersed in a culture of death. It's just hard to believe America has to be part of that culture. We should be better than that. If more people actually believed in God (instead of just saying they do), we could possibly turn America around.

36 posted on 03/10/2011 1:21:04 PM PST by mtg
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bump!


37 posted on 03/10/2011 1:23:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Frantzie

Usually people read the article, and THEN post.


38 posted on 03/10/2011 1:24:35 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mtg
As I mentioned earlier, 53 million innocent Americans have been murdered by judicial decree in the past 38 years, it's impossible to make any claim of moral superiority based on that.
39 posted on 03/10/2011 1:25:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: surroundedbyblue; Frantzie; PGR88; wagglebee
I agree that the responses of some FReepers are deeply troubling.

The article, though, doesn't do a good job of making the issues clear. The central issue is not

The real, central point is that a helpless woman's feeding tube was removed, for the purpose of causing her death by starvation/dehydration. This is murder.

Since she was severely disabled, the proper thing to do would have been to secure "ordinary care" for her -- at a long-term convalescent care center or hospice --- which her adult sons, all apparently employed and enjoying some level of income, should have paid for.

"Ordinary care" is nothing more or less than nutrition/hydration, hygienic maintenance and comfort care; it is not expensive; and it should have been provided by her next of kin. This is their familial obligation. If they can't afford a convaescent home, it could have been provided in a private home, or even an apartment, with home hospice workers and/or family members attending to the (simple) process of tube feeding.

The fact that all the choices were taken away by a court-appointed "guardian" who exercised "guardianship" by arranging for her death by starvation, is gravely wrong. Whatever the legalities, from a moral point of view it is premeditated murder.

40 posted on 03/10/2011 1:29:48 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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