Fox News should fire Glenn Beck; Speaker Boehner should denounce the birthers (Too much hate)

The Hill ^ | 2/25/11 | Brent Budowsky

[cousair]

Me too....you have said it so well there doesn’t have to be anything else to add, unless we watch the Democrat Party crash and burn!! I think it is on the way!!

[Peter Libra]

Brent toughen up buttercup. Get a real job and begin enjoying life.

Fair advice for Brent. Indeed in criming Glenn Beck, he could be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Indeed, no man could me more obtuse and downright abusive of anyone raising questions about the eligibility of the now president.

For it was he, Beck, who ranted incoherently at an innocent woman caller who mildly mentioned the electoral college and eligibility in 2008. I know it is presumptuous of me to mention American history to someone like Brent who should be well versed in the past.

The poster boy for virulent and spiteful abuse, as president might well be Andrew Johnson of Tennessee. Johnson was processed into the presidency on the assassination of President Lincoln. All hell broke loose. He offered less harsh terms to the defeated South, Still harsh by any standards. He survived impeachment by one single vote. Edmund Ross of Kansas was nigh threatened and beaten for that dissenting vote.

Yet the Republic survived to become the main world power, superseding Britain. Dinna fash yersel Brent, the Republic will survive. It will sort itself out in a free expression based on the First Amendment to the Constitution.

Please excuse the rant. I have a California wine blended with an Ontario wine on hand. (chuckle).

[Peter Libra]

Correction to my above post.

Indeed, no man could be more obtuse and downright abusive.....

[bluecat6]

If Beck is wrong - sue him. If his blatantly wrong and refuses to retract - sue him. If he is lying and smearing people in an unfair way - sue him.

The lack of a law suit says that he must be correct. After all that is the measure most Obots use to determine if something is true or not. If no legal action - it must be true. That is how it goes with an a legally invalidated image of a supposed document.

So if Beck is so wrong, so bad, lying, smearing, defaming...SUE HIM YOU COWARDS! Otherwise - QUIT WHINING and quit trying to get BOEHNER to carry your pathetic water!

After all - it is the mainstream media that has lied over and over and over again.

Just one example is here:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524,00.html

Lets go down the lies and/or mis-leading statements:

1. We know that Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) was living in Washington State from August of 1961 to Spring of 1962. What did Time say about this critical period. Nothing...

“Then, when Obama was almost 1, his father left for Harvard to get a Ph.D. in economics.
...

When her son was almost 2, Ann returned to college.”

2. Lolo and SAD were married in 1965 when Obama was only 3 years old and likely formally adopted by his new step father. So what did Time say:

“Lolo proposed in 1967.”

[ebysan]

Brent sould do some real research to see the true information out there!!

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Here are 6 African Newspaper articles calling Obama “Kenyan-Born”

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Notice the first article was from Sunday, June 27,........... “2004”

Historical News Articles and FactCheck Agree: Obama is “Kenyan-born”
Posted on October 18th, 2009 by David-Crockett

Sunday, June 27, “2004”

Kenya Sunday Standard headline-”Kenyan-born” Obama all set for US Senate
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born04.htm

The Nigerian Observer-Americans will today go to the polls to elect their next President with Democratic Party candidate, Senator Barack Obama largely favoured to win. The “Kenyan-born” Senator will…”
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born01.htm

USAfrica — “Kenyan-born” OBAMA makes history…wins presidential nomination of U. S. Democratic party; eyes on White House…
http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/Born09.gif

AllAfrica.com — ” Little wonder then why “Kenyan-born” Barack Obama, America’s first Black President…”
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/Born02.htm

GraphicGhana.com — “For Ghana, Obama’s visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever “African-American President” on this presidential visit to the “continent of his birth”. The same article, with the same quote, appeared in ModernGhana.com.
http://www.theobamafile.com/.../...5-ContinentOfBirth.htm

The Ghana Times — “So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the “African-American Senator” from Illinois state. A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the “Kenyan born” American ahead of his rivel, John McCain.”
http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/Born07.bmp

[Tex-Con-Man]

So the Hawaiian newspaper birth announcements are unacceptable proof of Obama being born in Hawaii, but African newspaper articles are acceptable proof that he was born in Kenya?

Some days ya’ need a program to keep track of the divergent sects of birtherology.

[punchamullah]

Is he not the chubby fellow in ‘Animal House’?

[devattel]

Tex-Con-Man said:

So the Hawaiian newspaper birth announcements are unacceptable proof of Obama being born in Hawaii, but African newspaper articles are acceptable proof that he was born in Kenya?

Some days ya’ need a program to keep track of the divergent sects of birtherology.

Neither are acceptable in the court of law as neither are managed by the state of Hawaii or the country of Kenya. Clinging to either for an answer is a waste of time and resources as it is purely speculation. The only benefit to reviewing this information is to use it as evidence in any fraud cases which may arise.

The same applies to digital facimiles of birth certificates, certifications, and licenses. Birth records should be easily obtainable in hard copy form from the state issuing those certifications. It only takes a simple certified packet to be shipped from the state to the requesting court.

Regardless, it matters not if Obama is born in Hawaii or not. The Supreme Court must interpret Article II requirements in the context of qualifications. Otherwise all of this conjecture is simply an academic exercise.

What I find continually fascinating is the vehement "birther" opposition who want to ensure this case never makes it to the Supreme Court. This represents true fear that Obama is truly unqualified along with millions of other dual citizens. It is akin to the senators in Wisconsin who abandon their post instead of provide resolution to a problem diplomatically, regardless of outcome.

My question is: "What are you afraid of? Do you not trust the Supreme Court to make a Constitutional decision?"

[Tex-Con-Man]

"What are you afraid of? Do you not trust the Supreme Court to make a Constitutional decision?"

I have said from the very beginning, this issue has only two paths...Supreme Court judgment or impeachment.

No true conservative would want the Supreme Court undoing a presidential election more than halfway through his term. Especially based on information that was well known before the election. And I for one am grateful the courts have so far refused to participate in undoing elections.

The second is impeachment, and based on the very questionable "evidence", it is highly unlikely that Congress will ever take it seriously. Among all the other malfeasance, there was a credible accusation that Clinton was a rapist, but now Chris Mathews sees him as President of the World...an Elder Statesman.

So...not afraid of anything. I'm just tired of so-called conservatives creating the false hope that something magical will happen to either, end Obama's term, or prevent him from running for a second term. His ideas are bankrupt and are what need to be defeated. And more importantly, can be.

Look who keeps talking about it...leftist journalists, a commie Hawaiian Governor and his unreliable Hollywood reporter buddy, self-appointed corrupt Hawaiian official and document fraud detective Polarik (not to mention relationship advice guru for $2. a minute.) and now Birther King, Internet PowerHouse, Republican presidential nominee hopeful Andy Martin. Ever wonder why the birther movement attracts so many leftists, frauds and charlatans...and yet not a peep from the Heritage Foundation or Landmark Legal?

[edge919]

So the Hawaiian newspaper birth announcements are unacceptable proof of Obama being born in Hawaii, but African newspaper articles are acceptable proof that he was born in Kenya?

You do understand that the former articles actually say where Obama was born while the birth announcements do not?? Tell me you understand this.

[csense]

For now, it is time for Fox News to fire Glenn Beck and time for Speaker Boehner to denounce the birthers, or Fox News will forfeit its right to be treated as a serious news network, and Speaker Boehner will forfeit his stature as a national leader...

So sayeth the Grand Inquisitor and Enforcer of the Forfeiture Institute of Real Serious journalism.

But really though, take your demands and shove them up your rear end.

[Tex-Con-Man]

You do understand that the former articles actually say where Obama was born while the birth announcements do not??

I'll let your comment stand as a quiet, small monument to "proving my point".

[GGMac]

Thank you for the soul-refreshing concert. Exquisite. :)

[edge919]

I'll let your comment stand as a quiet, small monument to "proving my point".

Again, do you UNDERSTAND that the birth announcements from 1961 do NOT list a place of birth?? This is a simple question that requires only a yes or no response.

[bushpilot1]

http://plan-international.org/about-plan/who-is-who