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The US Air Force’s Tanker Gamble
defense-aerospace.com ^ | Feb. 25, 2011 | Giovanni de Briganti

Posted on 02/25/2011 5:40:05 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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Perhaps inauspiciously given the Joint Strike Fighter’s poor record of meeting price and schedule goals, Boeing opted to depict its future KC-46A tanker with an F-35. (Boeing imagery)

1 posted on 02/25/2011 5:40:08 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

EADs never had a chance. The White House and hence, the DOD are a “union-owned” shop.


2 posted on 02/25/2011 5:52:09 AM PST by Redleg Duke (I DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIBERAL MEDIA!)
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To: Redleg Duke
So you would of preferred that the European socialists got the contract?
3 posted on 02/25/2011 5:57:54 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: Redleg Duke
So you would of preferred that the European socialists got the contract?
4 posted on 02/25/2011 5:57:54 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: Redleg Duke

EADS aircraft tend to break apart. Given Boeing’s track record how can they go too far wrong?


5 posted on 02/25/2011 6:13:46 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Redleg Duke
EADs never had a chance. The White House and hence, the DOD are a “union-owned” shop.

Nonsense. This competition was a 372 mandatory pass/fail requirement to qualify, followed by a lowest price wins.

Only if the two bids were within 1% of each other would 93 non-mandatory requirements have been used to select the winner. EADS clearly would have won those.

The simple fact is that Boeing underbid EADS by more than 1%. After EADS is debriefed on the selection process will we know if they will protest. Their only grounds for a potential protest would be over what modifications to their offered price were made to compensate for fuel use over 40 years and military contstruction costs.

Lastly, from what I've heard, this contract to Boeing is $1 billion higher than the 2008 KC-45A contract. So it cost the taxpayer $1 billion to overturn that decision.

6 posted on 02/25/2011 6:17:17 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

from a selfish point of view I would have preferred the planes to be built in the Mobile AL area and thereby benefit this part of the country. sigh...


7 posted on 02/25/2011 6:17:24 AM PST by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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To: sassy steel magnolia
Large parts of them will most likely be built there.
8 posted on 02/25/2011 6:28:08 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: mad_as_he$$

If they provided a better aircraft, mostly built in the US with US engines, parts, electronics, for a lower price, with the saving say going to buy a hundred MRAP so GI’s and Marines can survive IED.....then yes.


9 posted on 02/25/2011 6:34:24 AM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: mad_as_he$$
"So you would of preferred that the European socialists got the contract?"

As opposed to US Communists...yes.

10 posted on 02/25/2011 6:37:17 AM PST by Redleg Duke (I DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIBERAL MEDIA!)
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To: Redleg Duke

There is a huge misconception about Boeing employees and I see it all over this thread. We are not all Union members. The people that touch the parts in the plant, yes – but behind them are a whole lot of Boeing people who are salaried and not represented by a Union. And there are 800 suppliers in more than 40 states who benefit from this contract, many of them non- union shops. So this deal will provide jobs for Union and Non union employees alike. So lay off the “Unions got the deal” rhetoric, because it is not true, and as a Boeing employee I find it sickening that the lie just keeps going post after post.


11 posted on 02/25/2011 7:02:55 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Leisler
What about the fact that virtually every base for tankers would have to be rebuilt to handle the Airbus - the cost would be enormous and is not in the bid.
12 posted on 02/25/2011 7:23:51 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: Redleg Duke
Yea sure, you want to rethink that answer for a do over?
13 posted on 02/25/2011 7:24:56 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: Redleg Duke

I’ve read some imbecilic comments on the Tanker deal. You calling a well respected U.S. company (my company)communist tops them all.


14 posted on 02/25/2011 7:32:27 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo
Not your company, the unions!

But, hey, if you are enjoying your victimhood, go for it!

15 posted on 02/25/2011 7:33:55 AM PST by Redleg Duke (I DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIBERAL MEDIA!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Watching the unions’ behavior in Madison and elsewhere and the corruption in Chicago and the White Hut, I’ll pass on the do-over, Alex for 200.


16 posted on 02/25/2011 7:35:27 AM PST by Redleg Duke (I DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIBERAL MEDIA!)
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To: Redleg Duke

Oh Lord, you are a load of laughs. “Enjoying my victimhood?”
No, but I am enjoying my 76 grand I make each year on my non-union Boeing salary. You think we are all Union employees?


17 posted on 02/25/2011 7:41:57 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: mad_as_he$$

Come on, think a bit.

What do you think the thing is made of, pig iron? Airbus fuel weighs more?

They are nearly the same size, weight, dimensions and performance.


18 posted on 02/25/2011 8:02:07 AM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Just 6 years to move that whole avionics suite? Ouch. That will be tight. I would say that they are ‘betting the company’ on this one but I have a bad feeling Washington will think they are ‘too big to fail’.


19 posted on 02/25/2011 8:02:49 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Rummyfan
EADS aircraft tend to break apart.

Total BS.
20 posted on 02/25/2011 8:04:49 AM PST by TalonDJ
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